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The Ealing Ghost Bus (sham bus service to force rail closure)

Yes, I read about this a little while ago.

There are actually quite a few rail services around the country that run for this reason.

They are known as "parliamentary services".

I was a little surprised to hear about this one because I wouldn't have thought running a bus substitute would count in legal terms.

Either way, it is of course somewhat ridiculous.
 
Yes, I read about this a little while ago.

There are actually quite a few rail services around the country that run for this reason.

They are known as "parliamentary services".

I was a little surprised to hear about this one because I wouldn't have thought running a bus substitute would count in legal terms.

Either way, it is of course somewhat ridiculous.

It says that at the bottom of the article.
 
The article doesn't really explain why a bus is run in this case, rather than a train, though.

Yes will they reinstate the service when they have done the work on the tracks/whatever?

Also what about the 80 people per train a day who used to travel from Birmingham to Brighton? Will that service be reinstated when they manage to get new trains
 
Yes will they reinstate the service when they have done the work on the tracks/whatever?

No, it's not to do with work on the tracks. It's to do with a re-setting of the Crosscountry trains timetable as I understand it.

Also what about the 80 people per train a day who used to travel from Birmingham to Brighton? Will that service be reinstated when they manage to get new trains

They will travel by a different route, avoiding London - probably changing at Reading or somewhere like that. Possibly it is quicker to go that way. As I understand it, the trains that used to run this route did so because it meant better long-distance services without changing trains. For example, you used to be able to go directly from Clapham Junction or Guildford(?) to places like Edinburgh. You can't anymore because it has been decided that removing this benefit allows changes to the timetable that make it better in other ways.

There's been a bit of criticism over the changes to the crosscountry trains times. Lots of journeys that you used to be able to do directly now require a change at Birmingham or nearby. I've heard that the crosscountry service used to be referred to as "Grannyrail" because it was good for older passengers who found changing trains (or going via London) stressful. These passengers don't mind if the journey takes a bit longer, if it means they can stay on one train for the whole journey and not have to worry about lugging bags around or missing connections.
 
These passengers don't mind if the journey takes a bit longer, if it means they can stay on one train for the whole journey and not have to worry about lugging bags around or missing connections.


That's me that is!

I'm a 'granny'!

Cool. :cool:
 
Yes will they reinstate the service when they have done the work on the tracks/whatever?

Also what about the 80 people per train a day who used to travel from Birmingham to Brighton? Will that service be reinstated when they manage to get new trains
I actually used this train service once last year to get from East Croydon to Kensington Olympia. My normal train was delayed and spotted it on the adjacent platform. I would have said there were far more than 80 people on it. Perhaps the figure quoted are those going all the way from Brighton to Birmingham.

I have to say that it took much longer to get from East Croydon to Kensington Olympia than the service I normally use.
 
I am puzzled by this as Wandsworth Road is my local station at my mums and there has never been a service to Ealing from there as far back as I can remember.
 
I like the idea of having a party on the bus.

Here's some more pointless services:

The term “parliamentary train” stems from the Railway Regulation Act of 1844, which set minimum standards and a maximum fare of a penny a mile in third class. Private companies were able to protect their profits while fulfilling the letter of the law by running only one compliant service a day at an awkward time

Current parliamentary trains include: Stockport to Stalybridge 11.28 (Saturdays only); Ellesmere Port to Warrington 00.00 (daily); Chester to Runcorn 08.25 (summer, Saturdays only); Lancaster to Windermere, via Morecambe 05.38 (Mondays to Saturdays); Sheffield to Cleethorpes (six trains, Saturdays only)
 
I am puzzled by this as Wandsworth Road is my local station at my mums and there has never been a service to Ealing from there as far back as I can remember.

I don't understand this either. As far as I can remember the CrossCountry service which has been ceased used to run East Croydon-Clapham Junction-Kensington Olympia-Reading. The only bit of that route you can't do now is Kensington Olympia to Reading, so I can see why they might run a sham replacement service for that bit.

The CrossCountry services never stopped at either Ealing or Wandsworth Road So I don't see why the bus takes this route.
 
That was me! I changed it to give a bit more detail and hopefully stop duplicate threads. It could probably be improved on though...


Oh, I'll add tags too.

I think "rail closure" is misleading. As far as I know no track has been closed. It should really say "service cessation".
 
How does something class as a parliamentary train though.

Six trains a day between Sheffield and Cleethorpes? Surely people would use that during the summer, unless it doesn't actually call at any stations, or you're physically barred from getting on.
 
Travel cards should be valid on this service?
Party with alcohol on this train service.
 
Where is the big article in favour of the Uxbridge Road Tram, the most major artery in Greater London without rail based transport? Errrrrmmmm..... NIMBY!
 
Six trains a day between Sheffield and Cleethorpes? Surely people would use that during the summer, unless it doesn't actually call at any stations, or you're physically barred from getting on.

I've got that train actually (although not for a few years), it stops at Gainsborough's second station - a platform with a bit of concrete in a bit of industrial wasteland
 
When the train via Lea Bridge in hackney got almost killed off in the 80s, where the fuck was the press? Oh back then it wasn't important but now it's the olympics.

These wierd rules can actually protect trackbeds for longer term use.
 
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