Nintendo score zero in Greenpeace 'guide to greener electronics'

editor · Nov 27, 2007

Bad Nintendo (the worst). Bad Philips, Microsoft,, Sharp, Motorola, Panasonic, Acer and Apple.

Good Sony Ericsson (the greenest), Samsung, Sony, Dell, Lenova, Toshiba and LGE.

The guide ranks the 18 top manufacturers of personal computers, mobile phones, TV's and games consoles according to their policies on toxic chemicals and recycling.

The sixth issue of the Guide has been expanded to include televisions and game consoles. Market leaders Microsoft, Nintendo, Philips and Sharp enter at the bottom of the ranking of environmental performance with Nintendo being the first company scoring zero out of a possible 10 points. Philips and Microsoft performed little better, scoring only 2 and 2.7, respectively. Sony Ericsson has taken over the top spot from Nokia while Samsung and Sony have surged ahead to now occupy second and third positions.

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-up

Kid_Eternity · Nov 27, 2007

That's no surprise in a way, the Wii is kept in standby to allow it to download updates while you're not using it...

editor · Nov 27, 2007

Kid_Eternity said:
That's no surprise in a way, the Wii is kept in standby to allow it to download updates while you're not using it...

You can change that in the Wii settings, so that instead of being permanently on standby, it turns off.

Settings - Wii Connect 24 - Standby.

Kid_Eternity · Nov 27, 2007

You can? Didn't know that...

Firky · Nov 28, 2007

The life of the Wii is short too <5 years I imagine before people start throwing them away and they're small enough to be thrown out with the house hold rubbish. I shall be keeping mine. Sad like that!

stdPikachu · Nov 28, 2007

The Wii is the worst offender, despite the 360 and PS3 sucking up far more power when running games and in standby, to the tune of an order of magnitude?

http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-356-2.htm

Don't even get me started on yield rates for the notoriously fickle Cell processor.

That Greenpeace article has already come under fire for being poorly researched: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...de-undermined-by-minimal-research-effort.html

kyser_soze · Nov 28, 2007

A poorly researched Greenpeace article? Never.

They're the good guys, they'd *never* have shoddy or poorly structured research...OK, Brent Spar, but APART from Brent Spar...

editor · Nov 28, 2007

Apple's ongoing spat with Greenpeace has produced plenty of publicity, and undoubtedly encouraged Apple to start talking openly about its environmental plans.

If nothing else, that's got to be a good thing no?

Kid_Eternity · Nov 28, 2007

editor said:
If nothing else, that's got to be a good thing no?

If it undermines the credibility of Greenpeace (which impacts the wider green movement) surely that's a bad thing?

This is just plain shoddy, it's almost tabloid in its intellectual value:

The research in general appears lazy. Nintendo's failing grade appears to be based entirely on this entry in the corporate FAQ, which briefly summarizes some of the steps the company has taken to protect the environment. Anything that's not covered there is simply rated "No Information." Similarly, all of the information on Microsoft originates from press materials and corporate statements on the company's web site. Clearly, Greenpeace did not perform an exhaustive evaluation of chemical use through the manufacturing pipeline.

The tech industry should be made to 'green up' but going about it in this manner seems counter productive to the aims of the green movement.

kyser_soze · Nov 28, 2007

Greenpeace's science credentials were rumbled years ago after Brent Spar - basically towing it into port and dissembling it is worse for the sea, animals and environment generally than letting it sink, which is what Shell said in the first place. It's one of the reasons that Greenpeace never get stories run about them except for stunts and whaling - pretty much the whole press got behind the Brent Spar business and were left with egg on their faces, and even Greenpeace admitted that from the start their science had been 'dodgy'...

kained&able · Nov 30, 2007

have people seen this site?

http://www.alonovo.com/

like amazon(think they use the same database) but with a bit of stuff about the companies ethics. It needa a lot more info up on it but is a danm good idea.

dave

Nintendo score zero in Greenpeace 'guide to greener electronics'

editor

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Kid_Eternity

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editor

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Kid_Eternity

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Firky

The first of the gang

stdPikachu

Plughole in bathtub curve

kyser_soze

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Kid_Eternity

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kained&able

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