Not allowed to bring alcohol to Godiva Festival
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mr steev
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Don't worry though, I'm sure there'll be hardly any threads about it in a couple of years, just threads reminiscing about the days when you could go to your local park, see a few bands, and relax in the sunshine without being hearded around like cattle and having to pay ridiculous prices for the priveledge
pogofish
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Don't worry though, I'm sure there'll be hardly any threads about it in a couple of years, just threads reminiscing about the days when you could go to your local park, see a few bands, and relax in the sunshine without being hearded around like cattle and having to pay ridiculous prices for the priveledge
In Scotland, we got this a good couple of years ahead of you lot so no, there ain't many events that have escaped it.
Banging-on about the greed of the alcohol companies is missing the point entirely however. It is a licencing/H&S thing now.
WWWeed
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you've only just realized that?
I just get the impression its all about making more money because its not going to cut down on disorder. I swear in my whole life I don't think I have seen a single person being refused alcohol because 'they have had enough'. The only thing its going to achieve is making us pay more for our alcohol because we cant bring the stuff we've got from a reasonably priced shop!
Its the same with all these police controlled dispersal zones........
I only really go to the Godiva for the fights.
mr steev
magic thought wizard
Some of the H&S restrictions are ridiculous.
The last time I went to Godiva a year or two ago, it was a lovely sunny day, but the marquees were not allowed to open up their sides because of noise restrictions, and there were bouncers on the 'doors' of the tents stopping people going in cos of the capacity of the marquee - so you had loads of people who couldn't even get in, or the fiasco of having to wait in a queue to get back in if you'd left for the bar/bog
We never get this sorta thing at Strawberry Fair .... WE HOPE!!! 
William - I's probably just a matter of time for any kind of civic event.
Luckily, SF is not run by Cambridge City Council, and the site (Midsummer Common) is common land too, which I've been told restricts room for restrictive manoeuvre by the Police or authorities. As does, apparantly, the existence of a medieval Royal Charter (14th C), now in Cambridge University Library, granting the people of Cambridge the right to hold a fair or fete on Midsummer Common in the first week of June (or near wording) ... this document was re-discovered by some smart folks back in the 70s ...
Sorry for offtopic ... I reckon Coventry folks should go hunting for similar archival gems!
FridgeMagnet
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Yes
Don't worry though, I'm sure there'll be hardly any threads about it in a couple of years, just threads reminiscing about the days when you could go to your local park, see a few bands, and relax in the sunshine without being hearded around like cattle and having to pay ridiculous prices for the priveledge
Don't worry, there will be fewer of those as well, as people who might have started festival-going will bother less and less.
stretchy18
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Get two camel bak bags fill em with booze, and pop em down the trousers and yer off unless you get patted down
free spirit
more tea vicar?
Luckily, SF is not run by Cambridge City Council, and the site (Midsummer Common) is common land too, which I've been told restricts room for restrictive manoeuvre by the Police or authorities. As does, apparantly, the existence of a medieval Royal Charter (14th C), now in Cambridge University Library, granting the people of Cambridge the right to hold a fair or fete on Midsummer Common in the first week of June (or near wording) ... this document was re-discovered by some smart folks back in the 70s ...
Sorry for offtopic ... I reckon Coventry folks should go hunting for similar archival gems!
newcastle green fest ended up splitting in two over this issue - police are now insisting on this because it's now considered best practice, and everyone else is doing it or something.
thing I'd prob have managed to work a way round it had I been involved, but it's getting fucking hard.
I suspect it'll only take one kick off at strawberry fayre for the police to force them down this route too.
They'd have more operational and even legal problems with that (I mean with insisting on fences, enforcing patdowns, applying searches for freelance alcohol, etc.) on that particular site and with that particular event's unusual history, than at most events. And Cambridgeshire is a small force ....
Maybe I'm being wildly too optimistic though, we'll see.
Trouble at SF has been pretty limited of late, thankfully .... even with such huge crowds.
Maybe I'm being wildly too optimistic though, we'll see.
Trouble at SF has been pretty limited of late, thankfully .... even with such huge crowds.
pogofish
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Which is all well & good until something happens & a liability issue/dispute arises - Then the council may then have you over a barrel, unless you have very good lawyers.
Also, didn't I read somewhere of some ploy/agenda being developed by Cambridge Council to designate the entire common as a single "premisis" under the new legislation? Which would then allow them to enforce all aspects of licencing & ASB law. Did it fail outright or are they just biding their time?
free spirit
more tea vicar?
all festivals whether on common land with royal statute or not need licensing, what it sounds like you're talking about is something that's been done by loads of councils all over the country with council parkland, which is to apply for a year round license for their parks that covers them for all current and anticipated events - basically to make it easier for them to run / authorise fairly standard events in their parks without needing to constantly apply for permission to themselves.Which is all well & good until something happens & a liability issue/dispute arises - Then the council may then have you over a barrel, unless you have very good lawyers.
Also, didn't I read somewhere of some ploy/agenda being developed by Cambridge Council to designate the entire common as a single "premisis" under the new legislation? Which would then allow them to enforce all aspects of licencing & ASB law. Did it fail outright or are they just biding their time?
it's actually a good thing for independant events in most cases because they no longer have to spend £500 odd quid on getting the license, and local residents can't object at the last minute and scupper everything... does kinda depend if a local residents group got wind of it before they did the licence application for the park, and got the license restricted to like 9pm or something though.
Which is all well & good until something happens & a liability issue/dispute arises - Then the council may then have you over a barrel, unless you have very good lawyers.
Also, didn't I read somewhere of some ploy/agenda being developed by Cambridge Council to designate the entire common as a single "premisis" under the new legislation? Which would then allow them to enforce all aspects of licencing & ASB law. Did it fail outright or are they just biding their time?
Never heard about this -- at all. Are you sure??
Need links, and to transfer all this over to the SF thread proper to ask around .... .....
I'm transferring some of these posts over ....this is all very Strawberry Fair relevant. It's an independent event, the committee have a pretty good track record of working well with the Council, Police and appeasing local residents -- mostly.
ETA : All Strawberry Fair relevant posts (by pogofish, freespirit, myself) now transferred over to the Strawberry Fair thread
The SF music licence has in the past been cut back from 11 pm to 10 pm, but has remained at 10 pm (with beer tents closing at 9:30) for a long time now, and there've been no signs (certainly not this year) of being pulled back further. Al fresco independent drinking hasn't been cracked down on either, at all.
Mr Steev, apols for hijack to your thread, but what you raise does have wider festie implications ....
pogofish
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Never heard about this -- at all. Are you sure??
Need links, and to transfer all this over to the SF thread proper to ask around .... .....
This was a year or so back & it was certainly Cambridge & Midsummer Common involved.
Is any small part of the common in their hands? This could explain any confusion.
Foo's right now investigating, asking one of the Fair organisers in Cambridge. In the other thread now. But thanks for raising it!
Ok.
I'm just now listening to renewed calls for more restrictive legislation/control on festivals/all sorts of event as a result of last night's trouble in Manchester.
So it goes-on!
Specifically festivals?
Authoritarian twats, whoever's calling for that.
I heard gordon brown saying earlier he wants to ban all public drinking completely. The cunt.
Boris Johnson is already banning it on tubes/buses down here, from June 1st.
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