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Re building the unions: Statement

matewan6

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See the attached statement doing the rounds within trade union leaderships at present as part of the formulation of a new grouping within the TUC to force a change of direction. Comments welcome:


"The trade union movement in the UK is facing up to the effects of a prolonged slump in membership which began in the early 80’s and has continued since. Many factors outside of our control have contributed to this decline: not least the hostile legal and civic culture of the Thatcher years and the long term decline of manufacturing jobs. But this is not the whole story.

Much of the reasons for our decline lie at our own door. What must not be ignored is the weakness of our responses to these challenges and how this compounded the problems we faced. The attitude of retreat became deeply ingrained as the “dented shield” policy of the 80’s took us well into the 90’s. The systematic shift of power to paid officials and away from workplace Reps during the same period has had a long term effect and created a dependency of many members on their officer in the place of their Rep.

But more than this, our structures and approach to organising workers failed to keep pace with a rapidly changing economy and also contributed to our problems. The lasting effects of rigid spheres of influence agreements policed by the TUC and the state meant that even recently, too often workers were left unorganised while union officials discussed who should approach them. Long term damage was also done to workers’attitudes to unions by the corruption and bullying inherent in many closed shop agreements.

We clung too long to these mechanisms. Long after the post war economic and social consensus broke down in the face of the birth pains of globalised capitalism in the late 70’s. We clung on to them in our cultures and structures long after the world of work for which they may once have been relevant disappeared forever. Concepts such as having a trade or working for the same employer for 40 years became alien in the workplace from the early 80’s. Our desire to recreate this world too often made us alien in the workplace too.

But since much of the causes of our decline are down to us – the future is in our own hands. If we can create a decline in members by our failure to act, it follows we can create a growth in members by a new desire to act. Blaming globalisation and right wing governments for our problems is the preserve of the lazy, the complacent and the beaten.

We are not beaten.

Trade unions are the original direct action campaigns. We need to see ourselves once more as part of the global campaign for economic and social justice, promoting self organisation and solidarity to workers as the best solution to their problems at work.

Paid officials should train, educate and lead our members to do as much as possible themselves: and then let them get on with it. Not so union officers can have a quiet life. But as this is the most effective, democratic and accountable approach to getting results in each workplace.

Our structures and approach to existing and potential members should be utterly flexible, fitting oursleves around working people instead of expecting workers to fit in or go.

We need to take positive steps to identify and bring on new talent in each workplace, in the committees of the union and in the Officer Corps – making sure that postholders take positive steps to ensure their succession and developing activists to become equipped to challenge. In particular we urgently need more representative structures for our fast changing membership profile.

Defensive attitudes need to be brought to an end. Lets have the confidence to celebrate our structures and accept the messiness democrasy brings. And lets ensure that we become accountable to our potential members in each workplace as well as our existing members.

We need a systematic strategy to ensure that in each and every workplace the union stands for something, has credible strategies for improvement, and is in regular contact with potential and existing members. From these principles strong workplace organisation can grow and flourish.

Weve tried everything else by now. We tried to hang onto a lost world of Bridlington and the closed shop agreements. We tried to face down global capitalism by fighting every lost manufacturing job but not organising new industries. We’ve tried putting our destiny in the hands of the financial services industry in the hope workers will buy our products rather than those of the Prudential. We’ve tried to individualise union work by focussing on Tribunals, lifelong learning the law and personal representation. We’ve tried putting our future in the hands of the state by vesting our hopes in a Labour Government to solve our problems. We’ve even tried putting our fate in the hands of the employers by tugging our forelock and asking for partnership agreements or a return to the closed shop.

None have reversed the decline. Re-branding failed policies like the closed shop and selling them to us as new, as some propose, merely demonstrates the vacuum of analysis and ideas which lies at the heart of our leadership. Because the solutions to our crisis don’t lie in the industrial world of the 70’s, or in encouraging individualism over collective action. The answer cannot be found in the hands of the state or, worse, the employers.

If we don’t want to be the generation that outlives the trade union movement we need to put our energies into the sheer hard graft of talking to workers, hearing their issues, creating plans together to tackle them and supporting them to organise collective action in the workplace.

Its time to stop chasing rainbows"
 
Once the leaders started earning 10x what the membership does, lording it round with their chauffeurs and having their london houses they lost all my respect.

Maybe I should dispense with my memebership? Once a union man always a union man, i've stuck to some vestiges of socialism.
 
I have always felt that Office workers have needed a union, but not the union of the Shop Floor. I believe it is different for office workers and yes I have done both, worked on the shop floor and worked in major london offices. They are different in their politics and the drives behind them.

For office workers I have never understood why there isn't a union based around representing people during difficult times, Sexual Harrasment, Wrongful Dismissal etc and some sort of Political Leadership.

By this I don't mean telling people how to vote or which party to follow, but telling people about the important things to them that are going on, legislation that is important to office workers, the EU mandates etc should be common knowledge but they are not.

Such a union couldn't in todays climate be Place specific, it couldn't be a union at one company, it would have to be a universal union that you would take with you from one job to another.

Also has to lose the 'left wing' connotations that come with it, it needs to be politically independant, not supporting any particular view point.
 
Fong said:
For office workers I have never understood why there isn't a union based around representing people during difficult times, Sexual Harrasment, Wrongful Dismissal etc and some sort of Political Leadership.
eh? That's exactly what unions do do - especially 'office based' ones.

By this I don't mean telling people how to vote or which party to follow, but telling people about the important things to them that are going on, legislation that is important to office workers, the EU mandates etc should be common knowledge but they are not.
yup, that too.

Such a union couldn't in todays climate be Place specific, it couldn't be a union at one company, it would have to be a universal union that you would take with you from one job to another.
well, there's the IWW, and most unions will still cover you if youy are moving within the same 'industry', so, that's done already too.

Also has to lose the 'left wing' connotations that come with it, it needs to be politically independant, not supporting any particular view point.
It should be politically independent, I agree. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't give supoprt, even affiliate to, a particular party - if the members approve it. If you don't, vote against. but the reason unions are affiliated to Labour is because the members voted for them to be.
 
I think learning that you spell 'rebuilding' as one word or hypheated as 're-buiding' woud be a start...

And there already is a 'white collar' union isn't there? I know there's a loose union-lite body in the ad industry (and when I say 'lite' we're really talking ultra-fat free, decaffeinated here, primarily deals with bullying and bigotry issues AFAIK), and thought there was a catch-all office onion that was non-CS based...not the IWW tho...
 
kyser_soze said:
I think learning that you spell 'rebuilding' as one word or hypheated as 're-buiding' woud be a start...
or 'Re: building the unions'

And there already is a 'white collar' union isn't there? ....and thought there was a catch-all office onion that was non-CS based...not the IWW tho...
CS=Civil Service?

Most unions have an 'office' section - I'm in the T&G's. Even excluding all public sector unions, there is Amicus & the GMB as well as a host of alternatives. It's much better to have unions based on industires rather than crafts, imo, as if your factory (or whatever) is closing, you're gonna be out of a job whether you're on the shopfloor or in an office.
 
Thanks for the spell check. Anything substantive to add?

As belboid says at least 4 unions organise offcie workers - not counring those that organise offcie workers in their particular industries - civil service, telecomms, postal unions etc... So you are spoiled for choice really.
 
While I find little to disagree with in the statement itself (I'm sure I could if I tried, like :p ), my response would be pretty much conditioned by the bit at the top: -

matewan6 said:
See the attached statement doing the rounds within trade union leaderships at present as part of the formulation of a new grouping within the TUC to force a change of direction.

That is, while I might (and do) see the need for a radically different kind of unionism, I don't the way this will take place is by a new grouping within the TUC. I'd be happy to be proved wrong, though.....

But in the meantime I'm pretty certain that, in order to be effective, the kind of unionism that the statement talks about will not and cannot come from "within trade union leaderships."
 
fair point knopf - and I do wonder if 'the merger' has anything to do with this - fears by some of a split in the TUC with the Big Three Who Are One being virtually all powerful, should it go ahead.
 
matewan6 said:
If we don’t want to be the generation that outlives the trade union movement we need to put our energies into the sheer hard graft of talking to workers, hearing their issues, creating plans together to tackle them and supporting them to organise collective action in the workplace.
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Surely this bit is all wrong, shouldnt we be talking about how we can support workers, this still sounds top-down to me. I dont matewan6's politics but I would point him in the direction of Solfed or IWW....
 
october_lost said:
matewan6 said:
creating plans together to tackle them and supporting them to organise collective action in the workplace.
Surely this bit is all wrong, shouldnt we be talking about how we can support workers, this still sounds top-down to me. I dont matewan6's politics but I would point him in the direction of Solfed or IWW....
mm, there seems to be no contradiction there to me!

of course 'mainstream' union leaders are going to have different idea's about being a top down/bottom up union to the IWW, but this would still be a very definite progressive step, if implemented.
 
I think the statement is written with a view to changing the mindset and approach of some full time officers - and may have been written by someone in that role for all I know - but I think that, although the language and the fact it is trying to change the TUC from withibn raise questions - it shows an interesting set of influences and a major departure from recent thinking.

I think this may be the product of merger talks - but probably more so it is a result of the split in the US movement - with a lsrge bloc of the unions leaving the AFL-CIO on the issue of commitment to organising new workers.

On balance I think that we need to stay in the TUC and change it. Incidentally - I do not share this view about what we should do with the Labour Party - I think the issues are completely different.

There is a grouping around some of the newer more grassroots leaders who have been elected recently - Simpson, Crow, Woodley, Kenny and I think the statement reflects people with real and recent workplace experience if nothing else. i don't think the "awkward squad" tag works with this lot - they have hardly troubled Blair much and that is a for a discussion elesewhere in any case. Neither are the particularly "left" despite their pretensions - but an interesting analysis and set of ideas none the less.
 
A new grouping within the TUC?? :D

This is no TUC document!

I agree with much of it, but let us look at another part of the reality. Two unions noteably have been growing MASSIVELY in recent years. PCS and the RMT. Both as it happens have 'left-wing' leaderships. More significantly both have been involved in campaign and struggle that has improved workplace organisation and improved conditions for workers. Last year almost 50% of strike days lost were down to PCS. PCS also grew faster than any other union.

Lesson No 1.
Fight back = more members, more local reps, more activism, more enthusiasm. Fail to fight back = decline.
 
october_lost said:
Surely this bit is all wrong, shouldnt we be talking about how we can support workers, this still sounds top-down to me. I dont matewan6's politics but I would point him in the direction of Solfed or IWW....

When has either been in a position to organise even a little strike?
 
belboid said:
are you ever going to make an interesting comment, or are you just going to continue to post up pointless toss?

What do you expect from a form of basket weaving and uncomfortable, scratchy doormats found in 70s homes?
 
Groucho said:
When has either been in a position to organise even a little strike?

To be honest, I don't recall either the IWW or Solfed being in a position to do very much in the way of strike action.

In fact, I'm not sure if either group is a position to do so anywhere.

Last I heard, and it was some time ago, the Wobblies only had about twenty paid-up members and I don't know what kind of membership Solfed have nowadays.
 
kyser_soze said:
What do you expect from a form of basket weaving and uncomfortable, scratchy doormats found in 70s homes?
:eek:
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Groucho said:
When has either been in a position to organise even a little strike?
They both exist as propaganda groups admittedly, and Im not calling for people to leave unions, but they represent a core of what unionism was about prior to the drift rightwards of labourism and bureaucracy.
 
Groucho - it seems to me that is the point. Clearly this is no TUC document. But the TUC is important for its potnetial and in its basic function of the trade union centre - despite its use by Blair to cow the beaurocrasy to his Tory agenda.

Its this basic function that means Serwortka, Crow, etc... still sit on the TUC general council -f or what we can do with it if we start to have a radical and organising perspective. I think growth out of action has always been the way forward and like you am pleased a lead is being shown by some unions on this.
 
There Is Power In A Union!!!!!!

Did'nt DAM/ Solfed organise something to do with Motorcycle Couriers.
That could have been in the eighties.

With Trade Unions amalgamating into larger blocks and taking on policies similar to that of America and Europe, disposessing the majorityof unskilled, semi-skilled working class, especially people the new 'underclass' and migrant labour, a vacuum for radical syndiclism could be built.

By the way, is there any truth in the rumour that TGWU is amalgamating with a larger Union (possibly AMICUS). If this is so I think that it would be a great pity.
 
matewan6 said:
Its this basic function that means Serwortka, Crow, etc... still sit on the TUC general council
Crow doesnt any more does he?

Nigel - it is proposed (& the GMB too, tho they seem most skeptical) - have a search for merger or superunion & you should pull up a few threads.
 
matewan6 said:
Groucho - it seems to me that is the point. Clearly this is no TUC document. But the TUC is important for its potnetial and in its basic function of the trade union centre - despite its use by Blair to cow the beaurocrasy to his Tory agenda.

Its this basic function that means Serwortka, Crow, etc... still sit on the TUC general council -f or what we can do with it if we start to have a radical and organising perspective. I think growth out of action has always been the way forward and like you am pleased a lead is being shown by some unions on this.

I agree. When we look at how even the left union leaders stop short of leading a major rebellion (one that there is a crying need for) there is a missing element. That is a strong confident organised rank and file.

We need to organise within and not apart from the unions, but we need to be prepared when necessary to break from the rigid structures of constitutional legallity and sectional division that wraps the union movement like layers of barbed wire. First and foremost that requires an organised independent but politically astute rank and file movement infused with revolutionary ideals, but open and accessible to all workers.

In the immediate term the steps that need to be taken are building cross union links at local level and networks of activists able to exert pressure on the leadership, whilst strengthening rank and file organisations.There is no problem with simultaneously organising electorally to ensure a left rather than right-wing bureaucracy (and hence our ability to exert pressures from below) so long as electoral structures and loyalty to the left bureaucrats do not compromise the need to develop the struggle from below.
 
matewan6 said:
grassroots leaders

:confused: :eek:

If you think these exist, particularly in the form of Simpson, Crow, etc., you are severly deluded. If they're at the top of the TU hierarchy they are not grassroots, regardless of their intentions (which as you say aren't particularly left wing).

groucho said:
There is no problem with simultaneously organising electorally to ensure a left rather than right-wing bureaucracy (and hence our ability to exert pressures from below) so long as electoral structures and loyalty to the left bureaucrats do not compromise the need to develop the struggle from below.

They do, and that's the problem, you're doing two contradictory things.
 
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