David Cameron's son dies, aged 6

Fedayn · Feb 25, 2009

paulhackett66 said:
I think it would be very hard to prove any politician used their family for political gain, when it seems it is the media (society?), rather than the politicians who dictate that a political leader needs to be a 'family' man.

If Cameron was the only politician to 'use' the media, then fair point, but he isn't. The fact his son had an illness, can hardly be seen as seeking advantage can it? The reverse would be to have 'hidden' his son away somewhere. It's hardly on a media spinning par with wearing a baseball cap at carnival is it..?

No-one said he used his childs illness anywhere here. His webCameron youtube broadcast included his children, it was pretty well directed and there's no other reason to include them, other than show him being the family man etc etc.. Neither did anyone say he was the only politician to 'use his family, they nearly all do it. That's not the issue here.

jusali · Feb 25, 2009

Poor little guy he can't have had much of a life. His family at least looked after him well, giving him mobility and taking him out and about and there is no doubt about the love they had for him. I hope the little fella has found some peace at last. RIP Ivan Cameron

e19896 · Feb 25, 2009

jusali said:
Poor little guy he can't have had much of a life. His family at least looked after him well, giving him mobility and taking him out and about and there is no doubt about the love they had for him. I hope the little fella has found some peace at last. RIP Ivan Cameron

what a sick world we are in? jade goodie said kill me, idd do it but know it would be murder, so fucking what a six year old dies, of some tory scum bag, as said ill wipe the croacadile tears later,,

Belushi · Feb 25, 2009

Yeah, it must be crocodile tears, people cant really be saddened by the death of a six year old boy they dont know personally :rolleyes:

danny la rouge · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
what a sick world we are in? jade goodie said kill me, idd do it but know it would be murder, so fucking what a six year old dies, of some tory scum bag, as said ill wipe the croacadile tears later,,

Don't be a prat.

Kid_Eternity · Feb 25, 2009

butchersapron said:
How dare i even think abut how the death of the Leader of the oppositions son might affect public opinion towards him and his party - and in the politics forum too!

I'm sure Labour strategists are being just as calculating as you in their assessment of the likely impact of his son dying.

butchersapron · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
what a sick world we are in? jade goodie said kill me, idd do it but know it would be murder, so fucking what a six year old dies, of some tory scum bag, as said ill wipe the croacadile tears later,,

You too are a child of thatcher. Sort it out.

butchersapron · Feb 25, 2009

Kid_Eternity said:
I'm sure Labour strategists are being just as calculating as you in their assessment of the likely impact of his son dying.

They better be.That's what they're paid for.

Paulie Tandoori · Feb 25, 2009

Kid_Eternity said:
I'm sure Labour strategists are being just as calculating as you in their assessment of the likely impact of his son dying.

To be fair, I don't think anyone did. Not that I'm looking for a row about it, there's enough of that going on already......

Kid_Eternity · Feb 25, 2009

butchersapron said:
They better be.That's what they're paid for.

Indeed. And I must say I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying here, just not sure it was worth raising it on this thread to be honest.

Kid_Eternity · Feb 25, 2009

Paulie Tandoori said:
To be fair, I don't think anyone did. Not that I'm looking for a row about it, there's enough of that going on already......

I'm convince they are.

jusali · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
what a sick world we are in? jade goodie said kill me, idd do it but know it would be murder, so fucking what a six year old dies, of some tory scum bag, as said ill wipe the croacadile tears later,,

You're all heart aren't you! :rolleyes:

e19896 · Feb 25, 2009

butchersapron said:
You too are a child of thatcher. Sort it out.

born 1965? how dose this make a child of thatcher, others do i give a fuck about a tory scum bag? of course not..

butchersapron · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
born 1965? how dose this make a child of thatcher, others do i give a fuck about a tory scum bag? of course not..

It means that the denial of the common humanity of society has worked its way into your soul. Fight that shit.

danny la rouge · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
do i give a fuck about a tory scum bag? of course not..

A wee disabled boy dies, and you don't give a shit? Charming.

e19896 · Feb 25, 2009

butchersapron said:
It means that the denial of the common humanity of society has worked its way into your soul. Fight that shit.

The only common humanity i have is towords the working class, others well you know my feelings on them, i quite honastly do not give a shit in this circumstace, of course i feel any loss of my class, but then there is not time to morn, because to do so would weaken us and move us from what must be a common objective, that is the emancipation libration of our the working class, i beleave in anarchism not comerpise.

STFC · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
what a sick world we are in? jade goodie said kill me, idd do it but know it would be murder, so fucking what a six year old dies, of some tory scum bag, as said ill wipe the croacadile tears later,,

danny la rouge said:
Don't be a prat.

Be realistic, demand the impossible!

Fedayn · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
The only common humanity i have is towords the working class, others well you know my feelings on them, i quite honastly do not give a shit in this circumstace, of course i feel any loss of my class, but then there is not time to morn, because to do so would weaken us and move us from what must be a common objective, that is the emancipation libration of our the working class, i beleave in anarchism not comerpise.

DotCommunist · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
The only common humanity i have is towords the working class, others well you know my feelings on them, i quite honastly do not give a shit in this circumstace, of course i feel any loss of my class, but then there is not time to morn, because to do so would weaken us and move us from what must be a common objective, that is the emancipation libration of our the working class, i beleave in anarchism not comerpise.

Dude a child is dead, can you not summon a scrap of sorrow for such a short life?

Nigel · Feb 25, 2009

I don't think that anyone should not feel sympathy for this childs' death.

I hope this means that Cameron will review his policies towards NHS, wich would mean even more vulnerable being put at risk of their mortality.

e19896 · Feb 25, 2009

DotCommunist said:
Dude a child is dead, can you not summon a scrap of sorrow for such a short life?

no i can not to be honest not one, given the circumstance of said child and it is given i might seem a prat a cunt so fourth, but my anarchism and class pride holds here, i can not have any feelings to do so would weaken me..

jusali · Feb 25, 2009

A warrior looking for a war eh?

Fedayn · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
no i can not to be honest not one, given the circumstance of said child and it is given i might seem a prat a cunt so fourth, but my anarchism and class pride holds here, i can not have any feelings to do so would weaken me..

And for a lesson in how to talk utter cliched shite look no further.....

QueenOfGoths · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
no i can not to be honest not one, given the circumstance of said child and it is given i might seem a prat a cunt so fourth, but my anarchism and class pride holds here, i can not have any feelings to do so would weaken me..

Why would it weaken you to feel sadness at a child's death?

DotCommunist · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
no i can not to be honest not one, given the circumstance of said child and it is given i might seem a prat a cunt so fourth, but my anarchism and class pride holds here, i can not have any feelings to do so would weaken me..

Being a socialist doesn't mean burying your humanity ffs.

e19896 · Feb 25, 2009

DotCommunist said:
Being a socialist doesn't mean burying your humanity ffs.

i aint any socalist..

Belushi · Feb 25, 2009

DotCommunist said:
Being a socialist doesn't mean burying your humanity ffs.

Innit, being a socialist is all about humanity, compassion for your fellow man.

agricola · Feb 25, 2009

Fedayn said:
And for a lesson in how to talk utter cliched shite look no further.....

Its honest, not cliched. I may disagree with the "I cannot feel anything because it is a betrayal of class" etc etc but not with the "I do not feel anything" sentiment.

The death of Cameron's son is a tragedy for him and his family, but there are probably dozens of dads and families in exactly the same position as him today whose children's deaths will pass unnoticed and unmourned by the vast majority of the populace.

e19896 · Feb 25, 2009

Fedayn said:
And for a lesson in how to talk utter cliched shite look no further.....

and for one on bollocks look no further

Louis MacNeice · Feb 25, 2009

e19896 said:
i aint any socalist..

Nor much of a human being, if being human has anything to do with empathy.

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