Great to see people on here complain to the BBC about the editing, etc of the strikers interview, it would also be great if posters could complain to the media when issues about welfare reform, etc, are chock full of misinformation, distortion bias, etc, the media is very very guilty of this.
Hundreds of workers protest against Italians/Foreigners 'taking jobs'...
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dennisr
the acceptable face
those racists
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
Example (West Midlands):
Annex: CHP Technology - Workforce Supply and Skills - read this cache of a .doc in html
(http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cach...8/CHP%20Workforce%20Supply%20and%20Skills.doc)
That's just for operation afaik, I'm searching for construction data atm...brb
Spion
I hear ya
Pick your straw man toys back up and get them back in your pram
KS said
Yes, there is a post on SU, which says 'whatever the original motivation of some workers, leadership, albeit on the ground', has been provided.
again, the obsession with leadership, this time its the workers and the poster seems dismayed it wasn't the vanguard!
Yes, there is a post on SU, which says 'whatever the original motivation of some workers, leadership, albeit on the ground', has been provided.
again, the obsession with leadership, this time its the workers and the poster seems dismayed it wasn't the vanguard!
snadge
metal alchemist
That isn't construction work though is it.
once again it is industry striving to cut workforces, why employ a gasfitter, pipefitter and an electrician when one man can be all three.
Construction work is very static, new skills are instilled into the workforce as and when they are needed.
For example a welder has to weld a new alloy, training and testing of the new materials welding is done on site then a test piece is submitted to Lloyds and hey presto a new coding is up for grabs.
Spion
I hear ya
Keep guessing, pal - you're as wrong as you can be. But really, you'd do better to spend time discussing hard facts about the issue at hand rather than getting yourself worked up like a petty bureaucrat trying to bully reds into silence
dennisr
the acceptable face
sorry where you telling me not to get 'worked up' ??
that was a simple question - i didn't realise it was so appalling for such a delicate soul
"bully reds into silence" *laughs*
What does everyone think should happen if someone on the union controlled register is a member of a far right party such as the BNP?
Users and admin at libcom.org have put together an issue of our newsletter, Tea Break, about this dispute.
Tea Break: on Exploitation in Oil
Any thoughts?
Tea Break: on Exploitation in Oil
Any thoughts?
Personally, I'd argue that they should be kicked off the register, as should anybody who scabs, but that's for the workers in the dispute to decide.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
My complaint:
Spion
I hear ya
Well, someone obsessed over it on the strike cttee, and along with some of those the producing the placards, have been very careful to substitute 'local' for 'British'
Spion
I hear ya
Great stuff. Let's all get the union jacks out
And has it not occurred to you that they might be doing this because they don't want this to become a campaign against immigrant workers? Of course not, because that wouldn't fit into your neat little narative of the strike where all the nasty British builders are just being racist.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
fair play like... best fucking not take 10 days to respond mind or there'll be trouble
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
250 out at Heerema in Hartlepool this afternoon. Not the power station - which had its own walkout on friday.
“This worker solidarity is against the ‘conscious blacking’ of British construction workers by company bosses who refuse to recruit skilled British labour in the UK. The workers of LOR, Conoco and Easington did not take strike action against immigrant workers. Our action is rightly aimed against company bosses who attempt to play off one nationality of worker against the other and undermine the NAECI agreement.” - Keith Gibson, Lindsey Oil Refinery Strike CommitteeSpion said:
That nasty racist bastard
snadge
metal alchemist
Why don't you pick your dummy back up, it may shut you up a bit from your non existent "racist" attacks.
Spion
I hear ya
Local, British, it means the same. They might not want it to appear it's against immigrant workers but restricting employment to 'locals' is the same thing in practical effect.
Why are so many people so keen to gloss over the real demands about who can be employed and who not that this strike has? It's sad that so many people are so desperate to see some working class action they'll cheerlead what is clearly a pisspoor at best and reactionary at worst set of demands.
BJ4BW should have been clearly opposed by the left wingers involved, not gone along uncritically with a fluffy sounding substitute that has the same effect
Spion
I hear ya
*mwah*
Its incredible how quickly some of the Left and plenty of liberals have identified racism, xenophobia amongst the strikers, almost as if they expected it from the working class
then again, at least they are discussing it, indymedia has largely ignored it, what a joke it is since FTP became its guru!
then again, at least they are discussing it, indymedia has largely ignored it, what a joke it is since FTP became its guru!
And once again, how do you square this analysis (and it's pretty charitable to describe is as that) of yours with a mass meeting of the LOR workers agreeing to demands including a demand for immigrant workers to be brought into the union? Is that "pisspoor at best"?
People's politics don't arrive in neat little packages from some central committee, they develop over time and in struggle. There are both nationalist tendancies and pro-working class tendancies within this dispute, and as far as LOR is concerned, the latter appears to be winning.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
good thing no such thoughts were reflected in the thread title or first post isn't it?Its incredible how quickly some of the Left and plenty of liberals have identified racism, xenophobia amongst the strikers, almost as if they expected it from the working class
Who was it came up with that then.....
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
Its incredible how quickly some of the Left and plenty of liberals have identified racism, xenophobia amongst the strikers, almost as if they expected it from the working class
you made a thread about "foreigners" taking jobs at a time when 'british' workers were being laid off, didn't you?
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