November 9th 1938 Kristallnacht
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So in a country that takes the Holocaust and the issues surrounding it VERY seriously ther was a 12 000 strong anti semitic demonstration in the capital on the anniversary of Kristalnacht and no one in the media reported it?
Even if he mainstream German media was controlled by anti-semitic lizards, the independents would have picked it up. Shall I go and trawl through them or is it just slanderous bullshit as I strongly suspect.
Even if he mainstream German media was controlled by anti-semitic lizards, the independents would have picked it up. Shall I go and trawl through them or is it just slanderous bullshit as I strongly suspect.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
The only other report I can find is here:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1226404730069&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1226404730069&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
Ah, there were school strikes in Germany this week to protest at the frankly appalling standards of education in Germany and some protestors took direct action in a university building. Anti racists / anti fascists who have a positive position towards Israel would have been one of the groups organising the action.
12 000 strong anti semitic mob?
No.
12 000 strong anti semitic mob?
No.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
exactly
i just did a qucik search on google deutschland as well, and only those two articles came up, in english - like you said in germany of all places you would expect a little bit more than that
sounds like bullshit
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
yawn. i know far more about many things than i can be bothered to share with an idiot such as you tbh. you're boring, bigoted and biased, i think that you do your 'cause' more harm than good. night night
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
No, the thing is, it doesn't mean that at all and you are banned permanently for your relentless promotion of it, now.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Thank fuck for that.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
My point is, you've identified the 'current' threat, but, it seems there is always some sort of threat. Curious, isn't it?
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
you've got me there chief. haven't got a scooby what you're on about.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Not very curious when you consider that Jews are a minority, in history they've often been (out of necessity) better educated than much of the rest of the population, and have been prevented from integrating into the host cultures.
anti-israeli sentiment is sometimes linked to anti-semitism, people often use it as a cover, but in most cases it's not the same thing at all
most of the people you get on pro-palestine demonstrations aren't exactly queueing up to join the BNP
that said, the tone of many on the left (the "we are all hezbollah" shite is a prime example) does serve to alienate a lot of jewish people, and attract some pretty unsavoury characters
as jews around the world become increasingly hostile to israel's actions, that is changing - there is a growing recognition imo that you don't have to be a frothing at the mouth loon to oppose what the state of israel (as opposed to the spiritual concept) has become and what it represents
anti-israeli sentiment is sometimes linked to anti-semitism, people often use it as a cover, but in most cases it's not the same thing at all
most of the people you get on pro-palestine demonstrations aren't exactly queueing up to join the BNP
that said, the tone of many on the left (the "we are all hezbollah" shite is a prime example) does serve to alienate a lot of jewish people, and attract some pretty unsavoury characters
as jews around the world become increasingly hostile to israel's actions, that is changing - there is a growing recognition imo that you don't have to be a frothing at the mouth loon to oppose what the state of israel (as opposed to the spiritual concept) has become and what it represents
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
[Man in 2008]: those damn jews are screwing up in Palestine!
[Man in 1938] those damn jews are screwing up because.......
[Man in 1898]: those damn jews are screwing up...
[Man in 1098]: those damn jews are screwing up....
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
i'm not arguing any of that, i just don't see what jc2 is getting at with his selective quoting and his leading questions is all.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Ishmaelis are a minority. Quakers are a minority.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
That's a symptom of persecution, not a cause.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
both of whom have suffered persecution - ishmaelis especially
however, both of those appeared relatively late in history and are confined to a certain regional area - jews are pretty much EVERYWHERE in the world you go
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
neither am i, am gonna chill now. i was starting to get a bit testy for some reason.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
self perpetuating cycle, and of course it was in the church leaders' interests to hide the cause of this from the public and blame it all on the jooooz themselves
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
there's a difference between criticising the policies of a state, even criticising the circumstances in which it was brought into being, and criticising people because they're what easily comes to hand and what government leaders are encouraging you to believe.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Rach's usual lies and bullshit.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
spot the difference:
"Israel's blockade of Gaza, building of settlements, and so on, are all illegal under international law. But what do you expect from a bunch of kikes?" - anti-semitism
"Israel's blockade of Gaza, building of settlements, and so on, are all illegal under international law." - not anti-semitism
"The Jews control American foreign policy." - anti-semitism
"The Zionist lobby exerts a disproportionate influence on American foreign policy, for many reasons. However, the relationship between Israel and America has sometimes been strained, and should Israel become more of a liability than a strategic asset, America would turn its back on it" - not anti-semitism
"It's obvious why things are so bad in Israel - just read the Talmud!" - anti-semitism
"Some Jewish fundamentalists encourage extreme interpretations of scripture and use it to justify violence" - not anti-semitism
"Jews have been kicked out of every single country in the world. There must be something wrong with them. We should kick them out too!" - anti-semitism
"Jews have been persecuted in most countries in the world, for a variety of reasons, usually political and economic" - not anti-semitism
"Jews are trying to undermine the fabric of society by supporting revolutionary movements" - anti-semitism
"Jews have often been at the forefront of left-wing groups, mainly because of their history and position in society as an oppressed group" - not anti-semitism
"The holocaust never happened, jews eat christian babies, blah blah fucking blah" - anti-semitism
"The holocaust did happen and babies that went missing in medieval times or died were often blamed on Jews" - not anti-semitism
"Israel's blockade of Gaza, building of settlements, and so on, are all illegal under international law. But what do you expect from a bunch of kikes?" - anti-semitism
"Israel's blockade of Gaza, building of settlements, and so on, are all illegal under international law." - not anti-semitism
"The Jews control American foreign policy." - anti-semitism
"The Zionist lobby exerts a disproportionate influence on American foreign policy, for many reasons. However, the relationship between Israel and America has sometimes been strained, and should Israel become more of a liability than a strategic asset, America would turn its back on it" - not anti-semitism
"It's obvious why things are so bad in Israel - just read the Talmud!" - anti-semitism
"Some Jewish fundamentalists encourage extreme interpretations of scripture and use it to justify violence" - not anti-semitism
"Jews have been kicked out of every single country in the world. There must be something wrong with them. We should kick them out too!" - anti-semitism
"Jews have been persecuted in most countries in the world, for a variety of reasons, usually political and economic" - not anti-semitism
"Jews are trying to undermine the fabric of society by supporting revolutionary movements" - anti-semitism
"Jews have often been at the forefront of left-wing groups, mainly because of their history and position in society as an oppressed group" - not anti-semitism
"The holocaust never happened, jews eat christian babies, blah blah fucking blah" - anti-semitism
"The holocaust did happen and babies that went missing in medieval times or died were often blamed on Jews" - not anti-semitism
Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
Don't get me wrong on this, esp. as I've had rachamim18 on ignore for a good few months, but did U75 really just ban a Jew for voicing an unpopular opinion on a Kristalnacht thread?
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
i must admit to being slightly surprised, to say the least.Don't get me wrong on this, esp. as I've had rachamim18 on ignore for a good few months, but did U75 really just ban a Jew for voicing an unpopular opinion on a Kristalnacht thread?
man's a complete fool imo, but....
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
how else xan my statements be paraphrased and distorted
this is worse than when they murdered firky
this is worse than when they murdered firky
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