David Davis resigns as MP over civil liberties
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poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
They'll believe it when the first cases of it being used against people who overfill their rubbish bins - or put their bins out on the wrong day - start coming to light.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
According to today's weekend FT (I was unable to face the banality of the Saturday Guardian despite it promising to solve all my money problems) Kelvin Mackenzie was very much Murdoch's second choice. The first choice being Urban75's very own Badger Kitten.
An odd choice going by what she posts here.
An odd choice going by what she posts here.
The Black Hand
Unclean
lol - that would be good - i'd make a small donation too
Cheers.
Negatives - potentially a lot of hard work inc. hassle for the family around the country. I have already worked out my A4 sheet for them to read and say to any stanger/newshound
Potentially labels me towards future employers... HmmmPositives - Labour not to stand so a straight Davies V. McKenzie race - easy to attack McKenzie and try to become the real opposition given his hatred of all things working class - they can't help themselves - remember Boris and Liverpool? Give us practice so we can do it better next time, potentially builds a lot of great active links. Mobilse old labour activists/voters by standing on a fairly old left traditional ticket. DO a rally a coupla days before poll - have good speakers and Mark Thomas to do a set. We could do soemthing special...
exosculate
a stagger with a beat
Threshers_Flail
Well-Known Member
I dunno if you might be a little too optimistic on this one Attica but good luck nonetheless. It wouldn't be that hard making McKenzie and a Tory look bad, thats if anyone bothers to listen to you.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
At the Financial Times website
I think in the BIGGEST CUNT thread you should've had Kelvin McKenzie, i can't think of a bigger cunt, probably ever. Did you see the smarmy twat on the news ?
It also came out in the local paper (something none of the pro Big Brother shower let us know) is from 2012 New Labour plan to force everyone over 16 in the country to be fingerprinted - seig heil Mein fuhrer Brown !!! Frightening.
It also came out in the local paper (something none of the pro Big Brother shower let us know) is from 2012 New Labour plan to force everyone over 16 in the country to be fingerprinted - seig heil Mein fuhrer Brown !!! Frightening.
lewislewis
Lumumba Cymru
Davis is politically unpalatable to me. But he is not fundamentally evil in the way his main opponent, Kelvin Mackenzie, is. I also am not sure Davis is bigoted in the way Mackenzie is, he is possibly misguided instead. If the by-election fight is reduced to a civil liberties debate I will have to back Davis (not that my 'critical support' acually adds up to anything in this case!).
All of the party political issues and constitutional queries will fade away if this becomes a Davis-Mackenzie fight. The people in Davis' camp will be people I disagree with but would probably be reasonable enough to have a good debate with me. In Mackenzie's camp it will be the usual gang of racists, nutters and Sun readers. With this in mind it becomes important that Davis wins, and that maybe the Conservative government that controls aspects of my life after the next GE (even though they will not win a majority in my country) will be coloured more by Davis' style of Conservatism, rather than the Sun newspaper's own brand.
Progressive people could also then use Davis' victory to support an abandonment of ID cards and other horrible schemes that are being dreamt up by the authoritarians in parliament at the moment.
All of the party political issues and constitutional queries will fade away if this becomes a Davis-Mackenzie fight. The people in Davis' camp will be people I disagree with but would probably be reasonable enough to have a good debate with me. In Mackenzie's camp it will be the usual gang of racists, nutters and Sun readers. With this in mind it becomes important that Davis wins, and that maybe the Conservative government that controls aspects of my life after the next GE (even though they will not win a majority in my country) will be coloured more by Davis' style of Conservatism, rather than the Sun newspaper's own brand.
Progressive people could also then use Davis' victory to support an abandonment of ID cards and other horrible schemes that are being dreamt up by the authoritarians in parliament at the moment.
lewislewis
Lumumba Cymru
That man's blog makes me want to vomit.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Badger Kitten
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Badger Kitten
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I wondered why lots of journalists kept phoning me up this weekend.
How demented.
How demented.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Badger Kitten
oof
That is the fake Luke's blog.Someone has been spoofing.
The real, beyond parody, awful truth - and the righteous laceration in the comments from bloggers and commenters across the political spectrum - is
HERE.
Enjoy.
Badger Kitten
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Badger Kitten
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No. You're right. It isn't. It absolutely isn't. That's the whole point.
It's a massively fucking important issue that affects everyone.
It's bloody great that this debate has kicked off.
It would not have done without Davis.
What a weird, wild, upside-down Alice through the looking glass week.
Go, ex-Shadow Home Secretary and the un-elected House of Lords.
Chuffing hell.
It's a massively fucking important issue that affects everyone.
It's bloody great that this debate has kicked off.
It would not have done without Davis.
What a weird, wild, upside-down Alice through the looking glass week.
Go, ex-Shadow Home Secretary and the un-elected House of Lords.
Chuffing hell.
No. You're right. It isn't. It absolutely isn't. That's the whole point.
It's a massively fucking important issue that affects everyone.
It's bloody great that this debate has kicked off.
It would not have done without Davis.
What a weird, wild, upside-down Alice through the looking glass week.
Go, ex-Shadow Home Secretary and the un-elected House of Lords.
Chuffing hell.
I started a thread suggesting that people who are political active, SWP, No2ID cards etc etc should all descend on his constituency.
Make a show of it, show that while the media want to portray it as a political stunt and pointless, as labour and the Lib Dems want to step aside and make it a non-entity election, we should get together and smother his constituency with people just as a show of hands.
Simply as a single banner that everyone can stand behind, what other campaign have we got to get behind? Where else is there some big stand against 42 days? I ain't really seen shit that the media is interested in, and while Gordon 'that fuckwit' Brown wants to bang on about Polls we need to prove that some people in this country do not back him.
We don't want 42 day detention.
Even if we have to go with signs that say:
I can't stand the Conservatives....but I like my civil liberties.
Vote Davis
But that thread was closed. In favour of this one.....yeah I don't know why either. I would rather I didn't have to post a rally cry to do something against 42 day detention on the 24th page of a thread where people have been bickering.
Who cares huh, not like anyone would have done it anyway. Cause we all too fucking lazy, so we all deserve exactly what we get.
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