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detective-boy said:
Not always. Sometimes it's means they have just had enough of trying to reason with fuckwits who flatly refuse anything which does not accord with their own prejudice/stereotype/delusion of choice ...
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When I get to that point, I just walk away for a few hours, let them get it out of their system, then return to see if normality has returned - or give the thread up as a lost cause.
 
ajdown said:
When I get to that point, I just walk away for a few hours, let them get it out of their system, then return to see if normality has returned - or give the thread up as a lost cause.
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Maybe you should stick around - you might learn something.
 
Blagsta said:
Maybe you should stick around - you might learn something.
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There are some interesting things around here, from circles I don't mix in ... but in many cases, it does actually make me glad that I don't mix in those circles.

I don't think you're a bad lot round here - just have different views and opinions, or lifestyles, to my own. Doesn't make either of us automatically right or wrong in the grand scheme of things.
 
ajdown said:
When I get to that point, I just walk away for a few hours, let them get it out of their system, then return to see if normality has returned - or give the thread up as a lost cause.
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Each to their own ... I find throwing a few fucks into them more therapeutic! ;) (But it upsets the mods ... :( :()
 
ajdown said:
I speak English, because I live in England. It's our official language. If I was to permanently relocate to .. well pretty much any other country in the world that doesn't have English as its primary language, you'd have to learn at least enough of the language to get by. Would any other country put up in roadsigns in its native language and English to help those who have moved there? Of course not. We bend over backwards not only to accommodate other cultures (which in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing) but at the expense of our own. Funds are wasted providing services that could be far better used for everyone's benefit rather than just a specific language group.
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Umm, France?
 
ajdown said:
I thought there was a campaign in France to remove 'English' words like email from common usage?
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Thats a totaly different thing, and its not a 'campaign' its an established body concerned with the preservation of french language. Personaly I see that as a bit silly because languages are there to be used and they evolve naturaly, but thats for a different thread.
 
ajdown said:
I thought there was a campaign in France to remove 'English' words like email from common usage?
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Yeah it's a board to preserve the language from evil English influence. Nbody really pays much attention to it though its a bit of a joke but as said a subject for another thread
 
ajdown said:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you found other "BME", as you put it, pubs and streets in the area where you don't see any white faces (unless they're completely lost).

Prime examples, I would say, of communities 'keeping themselves to themselves', rather than nasty ol' whitey keeping them out of 'their areas'.

Few weeks ago, we went to East Street market. Bursting for a piss, we decided to hop into a pub we saw for a quick drink and use the loo. It was an Irish pub, and I have not felt so uncomfortable - or drunk a pint so quickly - for a long, long time.
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how peculiar!! not sure i have EVER felt uncomfortable in an irish pub!! ( and ive drunk in a few! :D) is that possible??? though was a bit wierd watching celtic win the league the other day with the next table full of pilled up body builders with a smattering of hun tattoos .. they sensibly left at half time! :D
 
Giles said:
Is it the fault of the "snidey middle class tossers" they can manage to go about their daily lives without stabbing and shooting each other?

Or that "BME" people don't want to go to the same pubs as they do? Or don't like the same music?

Hardly....

Giles..
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LOL .. middle class twats do not NEED to be in gangs and end up stabbing and shooting each other .. they are all in their own gangs of overpaid inherited wealth tossers ..

"BME" people don't want to go to the same pubs as they do? Or don't like the same music?" ... vive la segregation! its what the people want! LOL you as bad as fucking griffin .. people like you should be forced to give up everything and live in a shitty council/private/temp flat for the rest of your life
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
That says so much more about you than it does about any thing else at all.

Tbf, i haven't the time or the inclination to argue with the utter wank being posted on this thread.

Whether it's your utter straw men, durutti's view of stoke newington starting and ending at church st or baldwin's complete and consistent inconsistent meanderings.
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paulie .. do you like church street?
 
durruti02 said:
LOL .. middle class twats do not NEED to be in gangs and end up stabbing and shooting each other .. they are all in their own gangs of overpaid inherited wealth tossers ..

"BME" people don't want to go to the same pubs as they do? Or don't like the same music?" ... vive la segregation! its what the people want! LOL you as bad as fucking griffin .. people like you should be forced to give up everything and live in a shitty council/private/temp flat for the rest of your life
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Middle class people do not "need" to stab and shoot each other?

Surely no-one NEEDS to stab and shoot anyone?!

And people have different musical tastes and like different kinds of entertainment. Are you suggesting that people be forced to attend the same bars / clubs etc, in order to ensure social mixing, or what?

Giles..
 
durruti02 said:
"BME" people don't want to go to the same pubs as they do? Or don't like the same music?" ... vive la segregation!
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So no BME go to the same pubs as White People?
No BME are middle class?
All BME are in gangs that go around stabbing and shooting eachother?

BME and non-BME don't listen to the same music? Are you quite sure?

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its what the people want!
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Yes, correct and most BME don't want to be in gangs, don't want to stab and shoot eachother, so guess what? They don't!!!!


LOL you as bad as fucking griffin .. people like you should be forced to give up everything and live in a shitty council/private/temp flat for the rest of your life
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Funnily enough, guess who you sound like?:hmm:
 
ajdown said:
I speak English, because I live in England. It's our official language. If I was to permanently relocate to .. well pretty much any other country in the world that doesn't have English as its primary language, you'd have to learn at least enough of the language to get by. Would any other country put up in roadsigns in its native language and English to help those who have moved there? Of course not. We bend over backwards not only to accommodate other cultures (which in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing) but at the expense of our own. Funds are wasted providing services that could be far better used for everyone's benefit rather than just a specific language group.

How many hundreds of millions of pounds are spent annually on translation services in pretty much every avenue of modern life, to accommodate those who have come to this country and, even after 10 years here, don't speak enough English to be able to hold a basic conversation?
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:rolleyes: Where to begin?

1) There are a great many British expats across the world (but most notably in Spain and Italy) who have emigrated and spent 10 years or more without "learning enough of the language to get by". In fact Britons like yourself (any myself) are notoriously some of the poorest language-learners anywhere and carry on that inadequacy when they emigrate. If you doubt this, try googling up almost any report recently on the 'difficulties' lots of UK pensioners are having accessing public health services in Spain.

2) A vast number of countries worldwide actually have dual-language road signs, in "local language X" + English. France, bits of Spain, vast swathes of the Middle East, virtually the whole of Africa, Hong Kong, Taiwan, some bits of China, India , etc etc etc etc etc ....

3) It is not a case of immigrants "refusing" to learn English (at least not now, if it ever was.) There is now a requirement for anyone seeking permanent residency and/or citizenship in the UK to sit an English-language test. Sadly, in many inner London boroughs, there has been no corresponding increase in funding to pay for language teaching for new arrivals; unless you've already been in the UK for over 12 months, or are a registered asylum seeker, you will have to fork out hundreds of pounds for a few courses in a possibly dodgy private-sector tutorial college, or even more hundreds of pounds to attend the same courses at local authority-run colleges which UK students can attend for free.

Get out a bit more, and you might learn some of this from actually interacting with people rather than condemning them from behind a keyboard.
 
sadly that would only result in two issues 1) Ajdown would be forced on more people a bad thing for humanity....

2) they are looking for confirmation of their prejudices to continue the fanstasy they have built up that it's not them that's useless but the system which allows others with greater skill set's to surpass them in employment....

only the interminable thick and frankly insitutionally unemployable blame immigrants for their own lack of employment prospects...
 
ajdown said:
... except there are many reasons why people don't "get out and socialise", none of which you know why about me, and frankly it's none of your concern either.
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Funny that, because a lot of your opinions that marginalise, denigrate and blatantly blame 'others' for many of the things that you are not happy about in your own life do concern me.

Especially since by your own admission you do not 'get out much' and have no real, objective experience of those you attack. :)
 
Rutita1 said:
Especially since by your own admission you do not 'get out much' and have no real, objective experience of those you attack. :)
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Where is there to go though? Most of the things there are to do involve going and sitting in a pub with people - which, thankfully since the smoking ban is slightly more tolerable - but when you don't drink alcohol going to a pub does get tedious. Unfortunately my partner lives 120 miles away so we only get to see each other at weekends, and although I'd like to move up there it's finding a job that's a problem.

I don't have many friends around where I live - most of my best friends are online friends and in all honesty I'd rather spend a night chatting with them online than going out and spending loads of money at a pub and risk getting mugged on the way home.

Then again, I don't really need other people to 'validate my existance'.
 
ajdown said:
Where is there to go though? Most of the things there are to do involve going and sitting in a pub
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Well, yeah that's a problem with the UK, if you don't like pubs/clubs where do you out?
There is the cinema etc, but realisitcally sociallising in the U.K. dose tend to revolve around pubs & clubs a lot more.
 
ajdown said:
Where is there to go though? Most of the things there are to do involve going and sitting in a pub with people - which, thankfully since the smoking ban is slightly more tolerable - but when you don't drink alcohol going to a pub does get tedious. Unfortunately my partner lives 120 miles away so we only get to see each other at weekends, and although I'd like to move up there it's finding a job that's a problem.

I don't have many friends around where I live - most of my best friends are online friends and in all honesty I'd rather spend a night chatting with them online than going out and spending loads of money at a pub and risk getting mugged on the way home.
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You think you are the only one who is in this predictament?

Yes it can be hard but FFS stop taking out your frustrations on others!!!

Life irks all of us, it always has and it always will, in this you are not special.

You sounf like you are making excuses, and you seriously sound like you should move closer to your lady or the friends you appreciate, risk the job thing, something will turn up. If it doesn't you may have to slum it for a while until you find a better job, lots of people have to do it this way.

You also sound lonely.

It isn't uncommon you know, especially given your current position. I sympathise but please just stop being so ungenerous and intolerant and make a decision about changing your own life which clearly you are not happy in.
I know it isn't easy, but it's more than worth a try.

Then again, I don't really need other people to 'validate my existance'.
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Well you seem to be validating yourself by putting others down and making unfair and ill-informed comments on here lately, so that isn't strictly true is it?:)
 
Rutita1 said:
you seriously sound like you should move closer to your lady or the friends you appreciate, risk the job thing, something will turn up. If it doesn't you may have to slum it for a while until you find a better job, lots of people have to do it this way.
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I'm working on moving up there. It's just hard when most jobs seem to be upper level management needing 20 years experience (which I don't have) or vegetable processing (which I physically couldn't do).

Living with her isn't a problem so 'slumming it' isn't necessary, but she's disabled and neither of us have sufficient cash reserves to ride the storm for a few months, especially as she'd lose a lot by no longer living alone.
 
ajdown said:
... except there are many reasons why people don't "get out and socialise", none of which you know why about me, and frankly it's none of your concern either.
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except you make it our concern by voicing your bigotted narrow minded and clearly inexperinced wittering's on this site.

you bought the ticket for the ride you are now on, you can stop the ride at any time by simply getting off. The fact it might prick your consiouence or offend your morals is something you need to deal with. blaming others for your own situation or thought patterns is a sad cop out...

who cares about your situation, it's your mind which is closeted and closed nothing to do with your human frailites or otherwise. It's those words on this site which condem you not your other unspoken issues...

grow up. are you the only person in the world to have problems? so why act as though you are...

discompassionate comments begat discompassionate responses....
 
none of which has anythign to do with the thread title or anythign else concerning it really just another attention seeker looking to fuck up a thread with their actions...
 
ajdown said:
... except there are many reasons why people don't "get out and socialise", none of which you know why about me, and frankly it's none of your concern either.
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I'm guessing that when you do go out about and socialise you alienate people with your views (in Brixton anyway). Am I right?
 
Blagsta said:
I'm guessing that when you do go out about and socialise you alienate people with your views (in Brixton anyway). Am I right?
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No, I generally don't have a need to communicate with strangers when I'm out, unless I need to ask them for something, or they ask me something.

I'm not in the habit of just striking up a conversation with random individuals.
 
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