Apple iPhone

Kid_Eternity · Jul 9, 2007

jæd said:
Give it about 6 months and you'll probably have them free on contract...!

I reckon so too.

cybertect · Jul 9, 2007

editor said:
Well it does say, "the 8GB version has been listed at £329 ($662) that may include the country's VAT tax"

I think that £330's a bit rich for me for a phone. Even a Treo!

ISTR paying something close to that for my Treo 300 the day it came on the market in the UK. :oops:

Kid_Eternity · Jul 9, 2007

editor said:
Thing is, if I had a phone that costs that much, I'd be really wary of taking it with me all the time, which kind of defeats the whole point of having a good phone in the first place.

I paid just under £300 for my iPod and I take it with me pretty everywhere I go no probs...

Crispy · Jul 9, 2007

Still at least double the most expensive smartphone & billing plan I could find on eg. the Orange website. But there's no way the UK phone market can maintain a price like that, when nearly everything else is subsidised to FREE! The price will come down.

Kid_Eternity · Jul 10, 2007

As I speculated it looks like there's a possibility of an iPhone Nano:

MAKER OF entertainment gear, Apple is planning to release a cheaper Iphone based on the Ipod Nano.

According to a JP Morgan report Apple has filed a patent application document dated July 5 that refers to a multi functional hand held device with a circular touch pad control, similar to the Nano's scroll wheel.

Talking to the Sydney Morning Herald, Kevin Chang, a JP Morgan analyst based in Taiwan, unnamed people in the supply channel indicated that the report was true and they are preparing to make the cheaper phone.

Chang said Apple plans to convert the Nano into a phone and price it at $300 or lower. He said this would be a way for Apple to launch a lower end phone without severely cannibalising iPod Nano.

The new phone will have limited functionality, he added.

Crispy · Jul 10, 2007

No kidding 'limited functionality' - the touch wheel would be a rather limited input device for a phone.

Bob_the_lost · Jul 10, 2007

Crispy said:
No kidding 'limited functionality' - the touch wheel would be a rather limited input device for a phone.

Worked in the old days though. Finger on wheel, pull round to the right number.

Crispy · Jul 10, 2007

Bob_the_lost said:
Worked in the old days though. Finger on wheel, pull round to the right number.

After you on the rotary dial to enter text messages then

ruffneck23 · Jul 10, 2007

The anti-iphone

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html

Bob_the_lost · Jul 10, 2007

Crispy said:
After you on the rotary dial to enter text messages then

Could still work but yeah, pain in the arse.

rocketman · Jul 10, 2007

Depends how they develop the interface. It's a rumour, but is very likely

Kid_Eternity · Jul 10, 2007

Another rumour, big update coming for the iPhone, including things like adding Copy and Paste (which some have complained about on here too)...

editor · Jul 10, 2007

There's a big review here with a massive hands on guide:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/no-bs-iphone-review-276116.php

*goes off to read

adds: Blimey. He's a lively one alright:

So are you returning this thing [the iPhone]?
I should, but no. Don't look at me that way, let me explain. Look at other handsets from Nokia, Helio, Palm, Sony Ericsson, LG and Samsung; or anything running the vomit-inducing Windows Mobile. What they generally have over the iPhone, all these critical but technically minor functions, the iPhone could theoretically fix with a patch or two. Meanwhile, those companies in turn will never be able to make as great a UI and platform as the iPhone has the potential to be.

Funny too:

This Notes app is useful in the same way that a man dying of hunger eats rats and berries—you can't be choosy when it's all you've got. In the absence of voice notes, to-do lists, and Microsoft Word support, Notes is the only place in the entire phone that you can actually take down notes (unless you count writing an email to yourself). And thanks to the fact that it doesn't actually SYNC to anything through iTunes (not even to the Notes in Mail.app under Leopard yet), it stays on your phone until you delete it.

Crispy · Jul 10, 2007

Kid_Eternity said:
Another rumour, big update coming for the iPhone, including things like adding Copy and Paste (which some have complained about on here too)...

Not a surprise.

Kid_Eternity · Jul 10, 2007

Crispy said:
Not a surprise.

Yeah...almost a dead cert we'll see at 3G version over then...

editor · Jul 10, 2007

ruffneck23 said:
The anti-iphone

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html

They haven't exactly learnt from Apple's consumer-wooing interface, have they?

Crispy · Jul 10, 2007

Kid_Eternity said:
Yeah...almost a dead cert we'll see at 3G version over then...

*hand waggle*
not so sure about that, not this soon anyway.

LOL at the linuxphone

that interface is exactly how I'd imagine it. Very shiny, but still windows 3.1 design basics.

Kid_Eternity · Jul 10, 2007

editor said:
There's a big review here with a massive hands on guide:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/no-bs-iphone-review-276116.php

*goes off to read

adds: Blimey. He's a lively one alright:

Funny too:

Jesus, now the following is a big thing for me, I send a lot of multi recipient texts (the n73 allows you to create groups so I can text various people, friends, family, associates, work peeps in one go), not being able to do that is a pain...

[No] Sending an SMS to more than one recipient at a time.

Kid_Eternity · Jul 10, 2007

Crispy said:
*hand waggle*
not so sure about that, not this soon anyway.

I dunno I reckon we will...

Crispy · Jul 10, 2007

I've got 5p here says we won't. man enough to put up yours?

Kid_Eternity · Jul 10, 2007

Crispy said:
I've got 5p here says we won't. man enough to put up yours?

You're on! 5p that the UK release later this year of the iPhone will have 3g functionality.

Crispy · Jul 10, 2007

woah woah, uk release?

ach. I've got £5 that the iphone will make my breakfast by 2012. Now that's a man's bet.

Kid_Eternity · Jul 10, 2007

Crispy said:
woah woah, uk release?

ach. I've got £5 that the iphone will make my breakfast by 2012. Now that's a man's bet.

LOL!

rocketman · Jul 10, 2007

Here's a rumour - iPhone to gain many new features in future software updates.

Some of these could be quite good - photo sharing, iChat support, iWork integration and so on, others should perhaps have existed before release.

Anyway, for those interested, here be the linky
http://www.pdalive.com/showarticle.php?threadid=13781

Bob_the_lost · Jul 10, 2007

Hmmm, a cunning way to prolong the marketing hype? After all they knew all the launch units would go like hotcakes no matter what was in the box. Or just lucky for apple...

Crispy · Jul 10, 2007

Bob_the_lost said:
Hmmm, a cunning way to prolong the marketing hype? After all they knew all the launch units would go like hotcakes no matter what was in the box. Or just lucky for apple...

Pretty standard MO for apple - OSX 10.0 and the 1G iPod lacked some pretty important functionality as well.

ruffneck23 · Jul 10, 2007

editor said:
They haven't exactly learnt from Apple's consumer-wooing interface, have they?

ah but its all open source , so someone will soon change all that

editor · Jul 10, 2007

ruffneck23 said:
ah but its all open source , so someone will soon change all that

Yes. I'm sure some spoddy bloke will be along to update the interface right up to a glossy Windows 98 look shortly.

Crispy · Jul 10, 2007

Apart from simple programs that have simple interfaces by default, I have not seen any open-source program with the sort of UI thought and polish that apple (among others) does. It really does require very intelligent design and overarching control of application design to pull off, and I don't think the open source model applie very well to that sort of project.

Kid_Eternity · Jul 10, 2007

rocketman said:
Here's a rumour - iPhone to gain many new features in future software updates.

Some of these could be quite good - photo sharing, iChat support, iWork integration and so on, others should perhaps have existed before release.

Anyway, for those interested, here be the linky
http://www.pdalive.com/showarticle.php?threadid=13781

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