Johnny Canuck3
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nino_savatte said:
I don't remember, because I didn't say it.
You're a fucking idiot.
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I don't remember, because I didn't say it.
You're a fucking idiot.
Dandred said:
That would make such Jews just as 'Persian' as my son is Frisian.
Johnny Canuck2 said:
I've discovered that it's actually easier to let nino prove it himself rather than keep repeating it. There can't be that many people who can't see it by now.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I see that (typically) you've decontextualised my words.rachamim18 said:
I didn't claim what you imply, what I actually said was:
"After all, one of Israel's fundamental "selling points" to international Jewry is it's status as a refuge for all Jews. The US, Britain and "most if not all other western nations" don't claim to be the last best hope for members of a particular religion"
Not the same thing, as anyone with the English comprehension of a gecko will understand.
I claim nothing, I state.
I haven't claimed any different, but I suppose you couldn't resist another opportunity to present yourself as the fount of all wisdom, could you?
A "blanket condemnation"?
I think you'll find that my condemnation was confined to a specific subject.
Don't let that stop you from misrepresenting what I wrote, though. The more people who read this thread and are made aware of your tricks, the better.
As far as I'm aware, the Palestinians have been prevented from developing governmental structures that might, among other things, have ameliorated their racism. The state of Israel, with so much European and US input to it's population, hasn't got that excuse.
Nope, as usual (as you might possibly understand if you'd seen the thread in question, but I doubt it, given your fondness for narrativisation) Johnny didn't have a valid point, all he had was a link to an article by a right-wing journalist called Mireille Silcoff who used selectively quoted statistics to support her "thesis". The "mass exodus" that she claimed was taking place didn't exist.
Lock&Light said:
I'm sure many people who have come from the Persian gulf would still say they are from Persia many generations after they left, even if they are from Jewish famalies...... Hence the phrase "Persian Jews"....
Are you really into cows? Well I always thought you where a strange one. Your son must be a real ugly mother fucker.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
jugularvein said:
I'd argue that the former Yugoslavian nations on that list are still recovering from the great mess that lead to the "robber baron" capitalism they experienced (made worse by the internal conflicts, of course) in the 1990s.
Dandred said:
Are you really so ignorant as to know nothing of the Dutch province of Friesland?
My father's parents were both born in Dokkum.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
rachamim18 said:
no chap you haven't you aren't being honest please resolve this... i would come to you home but ask youself how coud i attend the house of man whom was so robustly irreverent as to appear to be lying consisitantly abotu facts which they are unable to substantiate...
come on if you turned up at my hous eafter expecting to berecieved as a welcome guest but to find out that in fact i gone to some lengths tomsireprestn myself to you would you not be gaulled.... can you place yourself in this situation?
in which case why would i not request that you provide the proof which you have failed repeatdly to do more over you have been caught out postin gas other user names by fridge magnet and they were banned. Again you claim this isn't so but indeed the posts are still available for all to see.
I understand your need want and wish to see a strong and properious isreal i also understand the idea that it must be defended as it has been repeatdly attacked and as the history of the jewish people with which it is enextricably linked to it cannot be discounted i cannot however understand how this personal which you adopt does anythign to supprot that cause, it actively harms it.
moreover like golum before you this trend seems to be preverlent in far right internent personas who attempt to adopt the personalities of jewish and isrealis to push a judeophoic agenda...
You are nto dealing in this forums with people who have just fallen off the boat between the lot of us we have access to some of the most accurate and informative reports actions and have been involved in many actions here and abroad ... we aren't fools and dont' suffer them gladly and it is bad form bad manners and down right insulting to all ont hese forums to suggest that a badly researched op ed pieces are fact more over to make claism that you cannto back up with anything such as soild proof however what's really insulting is to cliam that you have provided answers to questions which you have actively avoided answering.
so please if you must go then do so but if oyu are to conintue wipe the slate clean act like a responsible perosn and address the points being made to you or retract them as being unable to substaitate them...
it's not like you can loose any more credibilty at present but being man enough to admit you made a mistake or to face a consiquneces of your actions...
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
GarfieldLeChat said:
Indeed. Its an issue that wont go away ....he has to address this now.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Lock&Light said:
But sometimes you just have to let it out, like passing wind.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
most dutch i know would dispute the vailidity of friesland being dutch any more than belguim is it's part of the netherlands sure but holland propper... is streatching it...Lock&Light said:
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
you let little out except cats from bags considering your anti arab stance JC2 why the continued persistance on these threads???Johnny Canuck2 said:
GarfieldLeChat said:
Of course Friesland is not part of Holland, (Noord or Zuid), but as a province of Nederland it is very much Dutch.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
GarfieldLeChat said:
A disagreement with terrorism and fundamentalist islam, is not an anti arab stance.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Johnny Canuck2 said:
You don't remember anything that could show you up for the liar and dissembler that you are.
I remember an early encounter with you, where I said that the US economy relies on the culture of death to perpetuate itself. Rather than make a serious point, you called me a "poster child of the far left". You won't remember that either...quelle surprise.
The only idiot here is you, Johnny. You can't reply to anyone without resorting to frantic googling, large reams of cut and paste; cheap shots or images. You've got the brain of a soggy over-cooked cabbage.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
nino_savatte said:
You forgot the song lyrics.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
ViolentPanda said:You forgot the song lyrics.
Bugger!
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
summit i dispute...Lock&Light said:
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
no but an ingrained bashment of all arab culture as backward and inhertently violent is ...Johnny Canuck2 said:
but do continue...
GarfieldLeChat said:
Then you're a twat. Oh, wait a minute. Hasn't that already been repeatedly proved?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
That's interesting coming from someone who is a self-confessed hater of assimilation and "race mixing". Please don't tell me that it isn't true becuase I've seen your racist shite elsewhere on the Web.
Nino: "Israel is not safe." In reality, one has a far higher chance of getting victimised by violent crime in NYC than being victimised by terror in Israel. So....statisitcally speaking Israel is indeed far safer.
"Mass exodus of Jews from France to Israel is non-existent." As I said, mosre Jews are making Aliyah than at any other time save the 40s. Now, as to whether this meets your definition of a "mass exodus" is entirely up to you as the phrase is almost impossible to disqualify.
"More Jews return to countries like Germany then emigrate to Israel." Beg to differ. Of course if you were to provide verifiable statistics, or a point in the right direction I might be swayed.
"Rachamim ignores those Jewsliving [still] in Arab nations like Yemen." I certainly do not but I also factually describe just what those lives are like. They are STILL not allowed to work in many occupations. They are STILL forbidden t0o carry a dagger which in effect emasculates them. They are still limited in financial matters and STILL must pay the dhimmi tax. In fact, Yemeni Jews recently suffered a major setback there but I am sure you being the expert on it do not need me to expound on it.
Also, how does that negate what happens in the UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Saudi, and a few other places? Please answer.
Dandred: "How many Jews from Iran, or with parentage from Iran in Israel?" I would need to communicate with the Absorption Min. to find the exact number out but at last glance it was about 96,000. Unlike Jews still living in Iran, Jews who came from Iran but now live in Israel have FULL and COMPLETE freedom in EVERY way.
GrandmaDeath: I should be finished by March 11th on the Western calendar but that is up to the authorities as I hear there some things brewing.When I DO have the time I will I] find out if the trial of Capt. R vs. Uvda has finished [it has], II] I will find the verdict out...and,III] find a source to show you how ISM publicly tretracted the clearly doctored photos of the Rachel Corrie incident. Pray tell, would you also like, as a kind hearted bonus, the expulsion papers handed to several members of the group after they harbored a self admitted terrorist with baby blood on his hands as well as a cahe of heavy weaponry in their Ramallah office suite? Let me know. See what civility gets you? Take that to heart.
"Mass exodus of Jews from France to Israel is non-existent." As I said, mosre Jews are making Aliyah than at any other time save the 40s. Now, as to whether this meets your definition of a "mass exodus" is entirely up to you as the phrase is almost impossible to disqualify.
"More Jews return to countries like Germany then emigrate to Israel." Beg to differ. Of course if you were to provide verifiable statistics, or a point in the right direction I might be swayed.
"Rachamim ignores those Jewsliving [still] in Arab nations like Yemen." I certainly do not but I also factually describe just what those lives are like. They are STILL not allowed to work in many occupations. They are STILL forbidden t0o carry a dagger which in effect emasculates them. They are still limited in financial matters and STILL must pay the dhimmi tax. In fact, Yemeni Jews recently suffered a major setback there but I am sure you being the expert on it do not need me to expound on it.
Also, how does that negate what happens in the UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Saudi, and a few other places? Please answer.
Dandred: "How many Jews from Iran, or with parentage from Iran in Israel?" I would need to communicate with the Absorption Min. to find the exact number out but at last glance it was about 96,000. Unlike Jews still living in Iran, Jews who came from Iran but now live in Israel have FULL and COMPLETE freedom in EVERY way.
GrandmaDeath: I should be finished by March 11th on the Western calendar but that is up to the authorities as I hear there some things brewing.When I DO have the time I will I] find out if the trial of Capt. R vs. Uvda has finished [it has], II] I will find the verdict out...and,III] find a source to show you how ISM publicly tretracted the clearly doctored photos of the Rachel Corrie incident. Pray tell, would you also like, as a kind hearted bonus, the expulsion papers handed to several members of the group after they harbored a self admitted terrorist with baby blood on his hands as well as a cahe of heavy weaponry in their Ramallah office suite? Let me know. See what civility gets you? Take that to heart.
Nino: "Iran is Persian." Any, many years ago...and?
Lock and Light: We have a sizable minority known as Bukhari Jews. They originated [mostly] in what was Persia and spread along the silk hiway. They have a language all their own, distinct cuisine, music, and so forth. They could be considered Iranian Jews as well but usually opt for the term Bukhari in reference to the Bokharan Mountains .
Panda: So, in your mind, had the "Palestinians" had a strong governmental structure they might be able to negatesome of their own horrendous racism? Blah. Racism is not institutional there, but on an everyday persona level and as such all it takes is common sense and goodwill. Both things that have all of nothing to do with any form of govt. You also make yourself quite transparent when you use any and all opportunities to denigrate me. Get a grip "Panda."
"Blanket condemnation." No matter the number of subjects, you offered a blanket condemnation of an entire society, did you not? Shuffle and jive just does not go well with you.I also caught the snide reference to my lack of faculty with English but if that is how you choose to confront a differeing opinion, that is your weak choice.
Whether or not Johhny chose an unreliable source, and all we have is your "honourable" word that Johnny did, the data from the Israeli side backs up his claim. Deride the French woman all you want but the numbers do not lie so Johnny happened to be right.
Garfield: Instead of pointing to someone named Golem, take a look at you and yours. Not only do 6 characters here all sound like you, they even spell and compose like you. Maybe we are the only two on this forum, would that not be a subject in of itself. However, from the p.m.s I do get I know it not to be true. The point is, of all posting here, I alone have been the most honest and the express purpose for which I have bothered to do this was to cut to the chase when people like you try to run this dog and pony show.
Is it so incredible to you and other goyim that an actual Zionist, one of an estimated 20 million world wide [as many are not Jews before you let the numbers confuse you], might actually see it worthwhile to argue such mundane points? Again, that tried and true Talmudic dictum...
For your benefit, or rather the benefit of any poor soul attempting to make heads or tails of your long and confusing post...The ONLY three points to which I have NEVER provided backing proofm, are the 3 presented by a character named "Grandma Death." These points were [again] I] Did Capt. R sue the Israeli newsshow "Uvda" in Israeli civil court, to lot over tampered recordings of IDF comminiques that were then edited to give one a different sense from reality? II] WAs the case completed and if so what was the verdict [I clamed honestly that it was and that Capt. R got not only a financial reward but a public retraction as well. Finally, III] Did ISM publicly apologise for offering Reuters purposely doctored photos of Rachel Corrie and the scene of her eventual death? Fact is, Reuters has already made such a retraction and laid the blame squarely on ISM. This is not up for debate. Only the fact of whether or not ISM did in like. This is all she is babbling about. Finally, as I have told her [or is it him, one can never tell], when I have ample time I will provide decent proof, that will probably be when my Reseve Duty ends.
In the entire time I have posted here, those 3 points have been the only ones lacking actual proof. IF you have other exmples please feel free to post them and request proof. Otherwise, I dare say it is time to get back to what really counts and that is actually discussing the subjects at hand.
"loosing credibility, etc., etc...." Look, I do not mean to insult you or anyone else but I was a self assured man before I ever heard of this little spot in cyber space and will be one long after I leave it. I do not seek fufillment here. Sadly, unlike alot of people here [cl;early] I have a full dance card. When time allows, I play a bit more. Currently I am involved in things people like you could not manage to gain the first inkling of. When those affairs are tied up neatly, I will again be able to dig for "sources" and play such games. To suggest that such nonsense somehow undermines my credibility as a man, especially when I alone have provided ALL my personal details [or is Garfield your legal name] reflects poorly on you.
Another question for you Garfield: Why do you question Johnny's presence here , claming he is anti-Arab, yet not the slightestfrom avowed Jew haters whom you regularly talk to? I find THAT to be quite telling as well. To each their own. But why question one and not the other?
Lock and Light: We have a sizable minority known as Bukhari Jews. They originated [mostly] in what was Persia and spread along the silk hiway. They have a language all their own, distinct cuisine, music, and so forth. They could be considered Iranian Jews as well but usually opt for the term Bukhari in reference to the Bokharan Mountains .
Panda: So, in your mind, had the "Palestinians" had a strong governmental structure they might be able to negatesome of their own horrendous racism? Blah. Racism is not institutional there, but on an everyday persona level and as such all it takes is common sense and goodwill. Both things that have all of nothing to do with any form of govt. You also make yourself quite transparent when you use any and all opportunities to denigrate me. Get a grip "Panda."
"Blanket condemnation." No matter the number of subjects, you offered a blanket condemnation of an entire society, did you not? Shuffle and jive just does not go well with you.I also caught the snide reference to my lack of faculty with English but if that is how you choose to confront a differeing opinion, that is your weak choice.
Whether or not Johhny chose an unreliable source, and all we have is your "honourable" word that Johnny did, the data from the Israeli side backs up his claim. Deride the French woman all you want but the numbers do not lie so Johnny happened to be right.
Garfield: Instead of pointing to someone named Golem, take a look at you and yours. Not only do 6 characters here all sound like you, they even spell and compose like you. Maybe we are the only two on this forum, would that not be a subject in of itself. However, from the p.m.s I do get I know it not to be true. The point is, of all posting here, I alone have been the most honest and the express purpose for which I have bothered to do this was to cut to the chase when people like you try to run this dog and pony show.
Is it so incredible to you and other goyim that an actual Zionist, one of an estimated 20 million world wide [as many are not Jews before you let the numbers confuse you], might actually see it worthwhile to argue such mundane points? Again, that tried and true Talmudic dictum...
For your benefit, or rather the benefit of any poor soul attempting to make heads or tails of your long and confusing post...The ONLY three points to which I have NEVER provided backing proofm, are the 3 presented by a character named "Grandma Death." These points were [again] I] Did Capt. R sue the Israeli newsshow "Uvda" in Israeli civil court, to lot over tampered recordings of IDF comminiques that were then edited to give one a different sense from reality? II] WAs the case completed and if so what was the verdict [I clamed honestly that it was and that Capt. R got not only a financial reward but a public retraction as well. Finally, III] Did ISM publicly apologise for offering Reuters purposely doctored photos of Rachel Corrie and the scene of her eventual death? Fact is, Reuters has already made such a retraction and laid the blame squarely on ISM. This is not up for debate. Only the fact of whether or not ISM did in like. This is all she is babbling about. Finally, as I have told her [or is it him, one can never tell], when I have ample time I will provide decent proof, that will probably be when my Reseve Duty ends.
In the entire time I have posted here, those 3 points have been the only ones lacking actual proof. IF you have other exmples please feel free to post them and request proof. Otherwise, I dare say it is time to get back to what really counts and that is actually discussing the subjects at hand.
"loosing credibility, etc., etc...." Look, I do not mean to insult you or anyone else but I was a self assured man before I ever heard of this little spot in cyber space and will be one long after I leave it. I do not seek fufillment here. Sadly, unlike alot of people here [cl;early] I have a full dance card. When time allows, I play a bit more. Currently I am involved in things people like you could not manage to gain the first inkling of. When those affairs are tied up neatly, I will again be able to dig for "sources" and play such games. To suggest that such nonsense somehow undermines my credibility as a man, especially when I alone have provided ALL my personal details [or is Garfield your legal name] reflects poorly on you.
Another question for you Garfield: Why do you question Johnny's presence here , claming he is anti-Arab, yet not the slightestfrom avowed Jew haters whom you regularly talk to? I find THAT to be quite telling as well. To each their own. But why question one and not the other?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
28 years is "many many years" to you?rachamim18 said:
Blah yourself. One of the ways that racism is removed from everyday behaviour is by legislating against it, as an American I'm surprised you miss that easily accessible point.
Do you even begin to see the irony of what you've just posted there?
I doubt it.
1) I made no "snide reference". If you have some form of inferiority complex that makes you see slights where there are none then I'd recommend psychological counselling.
2) "Condemning an entire society". No, you're just not getting the point that I didn't do so, are you?
Use the board search facility to seek a thread entitled "Jewish flight from France". There's no need to take my "honourable" word for what I've said, you can read it all, including the many links to the data sources.
You see, weighing the multiple sources showing the bankruptcy of Johnny's argument, against you and Johnny and the few 2nd-hand factoids Johnny was able to conjure in favour of his thesis, I'm thinking that going with the proof rather than with the propagandists, is a sensible move.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
rachamim18 said:
Dear oh dear....still trying to worm your way out of this.
I want the statement from the ISM leadership that clearly states they admit to doctoring the photos of rachel corrie, a statement you claim exists.
Lets also not forget the producers of UVDA admitting in court that their show on Captain "R" was 'pure fantasy'......another claim you made which you have been unable to back up.
Finally you claimed Captain "R" successfully sued UVDA and trial is over-not forgetting you made that claim well over 5 weeks ago and as of yet I(we) are still waiting on.
For some reason though forgive me for thinking....after March 11th I(we) will still be waiting...but dont worry liar boy-I will be here to remind you...its not going away.
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