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Celebrity Big Brother 2007

exosculate said:
Mainly in - doing hostile Indian accent impersonations. Them being Jo, Danielle and Jade.
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Actually, I don't think that was racist. It's no different to anyone doing a Scottish accent, or a Liverpool accent or anything else.

What's a 'hostile Indian accent' ? ! :D
 
exosculate said:
Fair enough, i'd be interested in anyone elses opinion on this.
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It did seem that way to me but I accept that this is because I have been aware of the racial undertones to lots of comments made about Shipla starting with Jackiey's 'that indian' crap.....

Doing her accent does not make them racist.
 
D'wards said:
Ting is with Leo - he is entitled to leave at any point, and when he said "You've no right to manhandle me", its true - its a fucking telly show, not Chokey.

I think leo is a pompous twat, but do find it disgusting that the "evil producers" instructed the security staff to physically detain him, so they can get footage they need. I'm sure he has a case for false imprisonment there, you know

Bunch of cunts, all the production staff.

Especially that in the old days if someone fucked off, i'm sure they'd cancel the eviction, to keep up the numbers - but these days they are thinking "Ch-Ching" about the phone votes so will have less people in there.

Ruining this programme they are.
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Funnily enough I was thinking that too earlier. I think they would argue they were preventing him storming off under welfare grounds because he was in such a state. Blah blah blah.

I agree it takes a special type of low life to be a producer on this show, which is all about phone calls and adverts.
 
D'wards said:
I think leo is a pompous twat, but do find it disgusting that the "evil producers" instructed the security staff to physically detain him, so they can get footage they need. I'm sure he has a case for false imprisonment there, you know
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Yeah, that was outrageous. He's an total arsehole, but they shouldn't have locked him in and physically detained him. Not on at all.
 
[oops - just seen discussion above - I know it was hostile, but I still don't think imitating someone's accent, even if you don't like them, is racist].
 
Rutita1 said:
It did seem that way to me but I accept that this is because I have been aware of the racial undertones to lots of comments made about Shipla starting with Jackiey's 'that indian' crap.....

Doing her accent does not make them racist.
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No i accept doing an accent doesn't on its own.

But as you say the background is

1) Jackiey calling her The Indian who probably lives in a Shack
2) Jack and the did he say Paki incident.

I think i heard Jade call her a Dog at one point too. Again not racist.

Anyway it felt wrong to me.
 
han said:
[oops - just seen discussion above - I know it was hostile, but I still don't think imitating someone's accent, even if you don't like them, is racist].
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Again I agree not on its own, but I still felt it had some racist underpinnings in this case.
 
danny la rouge said:
She's the wife and/or girlfriend of some footballer.
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Oh Lordy fuck - what have we come to :(

e2a - though it's nice of her to multi-task if she's being the wife AND the girlfriend ;)
 
Rutita1 said:
Doing her accent does not make them racist.
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Indeed.

Nor do I think Jackiey was being racist, as it happens. She's dim and confused, yes, but she simply couldn't say the name (no idea why - it's no harder than Dirk or Jermaine, say). But then Jackiey is clearly not very bright. She struggled with "Shilpa" the same as she struggled with "dilemma". So she took to saying "Princess", or (when she thought she'd been told off for saying that) finally "the Indian".

Now you and I wouldn't use that as a personal descriptive term, but Jackiey - I'll wager - hasn't read much in the way of equal opportunities policy statements. She'd probably have called her "the ginger bird" or "the black woman", or whatever. Which we wouldn't have done either, but you can't project liberal niceties onto people who haven't come into contact with them. Shilpa is Indian. But I'm pretty sure Jackiey's dislike for her wasn't down to her race.
 
exosculate said:
No i accept doing an accent doesn't on its own.

But as you say the background is

1) Jackiey calling her The Indian who probably lives in a Shack
2) Jack and the did he say Paki incident.

I think i heard Jade call her a Dog at one point too. Again not racist.

Anyway it felt wrong to me.
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It was Danielle that called her a dog...other things said about her are:
Wanker
Scumbag
You're just the cook, we're all friends.
Nightmare...
'that indian...' there are more as well..,...
It feels wrong because it is wrong.

Apparently Cleo has now decided to support Shilpa a bit more...
From Digi Spy: Cleo's conversation with Shilpa last night

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Did anyone see this on the live feed last night? I doubt it'll be shown in the highlights.

After Shilpa's argument with Jade and Danielle, Cleo went to comfort Shilpa in the living room. She was telling Shilpa all about her childhood and how she was put in different schools as they travelled alot. Cleo said she had always felt like the outsider and was made to feel different from the people she was at school with.

She said that she knew how Shilpa felt, like she was the odd one out and how hard it is to feel like that.
Cleo said at least she dealt with that type of thing in her teens and learnt valuable life lessons from it. But Shilpa, unfortunately, was going through it in the house in front of millions of people.

Shilpa then thanked Cleo for her kind words and understanding, and then they decided to both sleep on the floor in the bedroom together.
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8ball said:
Oh Lordy fuck - what have we come to :(

e2a - though it's nice of her to multi-task if she's being the wife AND the girlfriend ;)
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I don't know which - she described herself as a WAG. (Which even I know means wife and girlfriend. But unless she has two on the go...)
 
danny la rouge said:
I don't know which - she described herself as a WAG. (Which even I know means wife and girlfriend. But unless she has two on the go...)
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She is Teddy Sherhinghams familiar
 
danny la rouge said:
I saw that, as it happens. What was bleeped out? How do you know it was "Paki"?
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To be honest, I wasn't sure myself and thought it was 'bitch' or 'cunt....I posted that a few pages back.
It is now generally assumed that 'paki' is what he said.
 
Rutita1 said:
To be honest, I wasn't sure myself and thought it was 'bitch' or 'cunt....I posted that a few pages back.
It is now generally assumed that 'paki' is what he said.
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Yeah, OK but why is it "assumed"?

And why would they bleep it out? If he's racist scum we need to know. Who are they protecting?

I assumed "cunt" at the time - they always bleep out cunt, but they allow a certain amount of fucks per exchange, depending on the time it airs.
 
Rutita1 said:
It was Danielle that called her a dog...other things said about her are:
Wanker
Scumbag
You're just the cook, we're all friends.
Nightmare...
'that indian...' there are more as well..,...
It feels wrong because it is wrong.

Apparently Cleo has now decided to support Shilpa a bit more...
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Oops danielle sorry.

Very wrong

Cleo is nice though.
 
8ball said:
Lip readers afoot? :confused:
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You need more of the face for lip reading. And anyway, it's only 60% accurate. Mostly lip reader rely on context, because many of the sounds we make aren't made with lips alone.
 
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