Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
I wonder what percentage of them are people yelling at each other about conspiracy theories?Badger Kitten said:Argh! 777 posts on the thread!
The 7/7 Report
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I attended the Friend's House book launch, to ask Milan Rai questions about his book. Maya Evans made it clear that there was to be no 'freedom of speech', therefore I was unable to ask my questions. I am not aware of anyone who would turn up to cause disruption or distress, neither did I witness any. If Milan chooses to write a book and then hold a launch he must expect people who do not agree or have questions about his conclusions to want to attend. In a democracy we should all value the right for people to hold and express opinions of which we don't agree.editor said:
Thanks Ed, I can always rely on you for an unbiased and fair assessment.
editor
hiraethified
Are you really trying to deny the fact that you got caught out lying and then tried to deny your own words?!!!!Prole said:
Is there something wrong with your memory or something?
Anyway, about these puddles, plastic bags, the visit of the '7/7 truth' investigative crack squad to Luton station and the curious case of the capacious car that supposedly couldn't fit three people inside.
Any breakthroughs yet?
editor said:Are you really trying to deny the fact that you got caught out lying and then tried to deny your own words?!!!!
Is there something wrong with your memory or something?
Anyway, about these puddles, plastic bags, the visit of the '7/7 truth' investigative crack squad to Luton station and the curious case of the capacious car that supposedly couldn't fit three people inside.
Any breakthroughs yet?
I'll keep you posted.
Meanwhile I'm still trying to figure out why we have been told in the official report that they caught a train to London from Luton that was cancelled or arrived too late to catch the underground trains. Care to offer any explanations to that conundrum?
i notice BK has been quiet on this point, given that she constantly posted that they caught an earlier train. Does that make her a liar as well?
Prole said:
They were seen at Luton on cctv at just before 0722 and got on the 0724 train.
The 0724 arrived at KingsX at 0820, they were seen on cctv at king x at 8.26 and the tubes left at 08:35, 08:42 and 08:48 which they got onto.
So why does the 0748 train keep getting mentioned?
The 0748 train was scheduled to get to KingsX at 0820, whereas the train that actually arrived at 0820 was the delayed 0724. Someone has mixed up the two trains. This mistake has been reported as fact so many times that noone actually bothers to go and check for themselves.
Can this be laid to rest now?
Are you suggesting that the narrative has been compiled from newspaper sources?TeeJay said:
Thankfully someone here has been bothered to go check for themselves. If they can't tell the truth about such a simple detail what confidence can one have in any of it? Let alone the single CCTV image produced, in which Khan is shown as a blurred ghostly blob with a bar through his head, a white cap that has no reflection, and with no lower body whatsoever.
You have read the narrative haven't you? You wouldn't be gobbing off without even the slightest idea what it contains, would you?Jazzz said:
Because if you had you would see that:
"It is not known where they bought their tickets or what sort of tickets they possessed" and
"The Micra had a day parking ticket in the window, perhaps to avoid attention, the Brava did not."
Proof indeed that conspiracy theorists are dangerous. Lock them up!Prole said:
Well fuck off and try it and stop endlessly speculating, you fucking boring twat. I, for one, do not want my tax pounds spent on spurious "enquiries" a handful of random nutters suggest.Prole said:
Why don't you get a fucking plastic bag and try that too? Put it over your head if you like.
Go to Luton next time it rains and stick your head in any puddles you find. Keep it there until you drown if you want.
You really are a tedious bastard.
And how exactly does the oh so reliable account of Danny Biddle explain how someone manages to put their hand into the rucksack on their back?Prole said:
Go and try it. Wrap your arm really tightly around your neck and hold it there until you can no longer breath if you like.
You. Are. One.Prole said:
.... absolute fucking bollocks.Azrael23 said:
I ran one on the 5th May and another on the 27th April if that helps.editor said:
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
detective-boy Go and try it. Wrap your arm really tightly around your neck and hold it there until you can no longer breath if you like.[/QUOTE said:You made a mistake there db, you didn't tell Prole when to stop wrapping her arm around her neck.
But it couldn't you fucking moron. It involved a handful of middle managers in a fucking room. No-one outside the company (and probably no one outside the fucking room) knoew anything about it.Azrael23 said:
All this started because Peter fucking Power was gobbing off without thinking having got the chance of some free publicity.
But not, by and large, assassinating large groups of randomly selected entirelly innocent members of the public going about their lawful business (the odd fuck-up excepted).laptop said:
And did you see that post 7.7.5 (see what I did there?) was from someone who hasn't posted a huge amount (and hence was clearly waiting for just the right symbolic moment to post) and that it referred to a "fake Luton" theory. Clearly this is the truth and it has been symbolically posted as post 7.7.5 so that only true believers will see it as the truth that it is ........Badger Kitten said:Argh! 777 posts on the thread!
It doesn't though. It refers to them heading to "the platform for the King's Cross Thameslink train" at 7.21 and "the London King's Cross train leaves Luton Station" at 7.40.scalyboy said:
It doesn't say they got the 7.40 train. It doesn't say which train (by schedule or actual arrive time) they got.
(ETA: It is, in my opinion, very poorly written and it is not evidentially well referenced.)
detective-boy said:
Agreed the stuff they got caught bang to rights about (after years of obstructing justice) didn't include large bombings of civilian targets. But given the intelligence services proven complicity in acts of terrorism, is it really so inconceiveable that they were indeed involved in large bombings of civilians but just were not caught, such as Omagh. After the Stevens inquiry, WMD lies and the Birmingham and Guildford fit ups of innocent men are we really just expected to take the police and intelligence services on their word.
BBC news: British agents in the IRA
'Prior knowledge of Omagh'
More prior knowledge of Omagh bomb
More smoke and mirrors
More Kevin Fulton confessions
And on and on
How do you hold an official account to account when no officials put their names to the narrative? Is there a precedent when such an important document has been produced anonomyously and just labelled an official account?
I must admit I was surprised to find no name (or even role) anywhere. I went looking when I found it was so dire by the standards I am used to of evidentially referenced police reports. It clearly isn't such a report. And if I had been the police officer who put together such a report which no doubt has been prepared and sent off to the Home Office, etc. (there are little hints to it's existence way, way behind the narrative, in the summaries of what was found in cars, houses, etc) then there is no fucking way I would have alllowed my name to be associated with this effort even if they had wanted it to!sparticus said:
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
detective-boy said:
But if that means they took a train that departed at 7.40, the only contender is the one that left 7.42 and arrived at Kings X at 8.39, eg. too late. That is if one believes the timetable from the Thameslink manager (as posted on some of the conspiracy sites) to be accurate...
detective-boy said:
I think you are joking but in today's world it's hard to tell. I think this reference to 9/11 conspiracy theories is designed to lead the public to conclude just that. Allowing people to question official truths is dangerous. Just look at 7/7. Control the internet and lock all these 'conspiraloons' up in a mental institution. No better still, gas them all. They are sub-human
editor
hiraethified
Could you give some specific examples of 7/7 "truth questioners" being locked up in a mental institution and also offer some examples about how the internet is being "controlled" to stop these people expressing their views please?sparticus said:
I won't even bother with your offensive "gas them all" comment apart from say that it was a truly moronic thing to say.
Idiot.
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