DoUsAFavour said:
So you don't find it ever so slightly dodgy that, among others, 'Dick' Cheney, and Donald Rumsfield signed a document presented to GWB expressing the need for a 9/11 esq attack on home soil?
How queer.
I find it hard to believe, and I'm guessing many others do as well, that any real socialist would not doubt that the US admin are more than capable of killing thousands of their own citizens, and millions of Johnny Foreigners for a few quid.
Genuine question : There are plenty who are sceptical that 9/11, when it actually happened, had been planned and executed by US Government, and who are also sceptical of most of the CTs surrounding it.
Are you assuming that said sceptics are necesarily also sceptical about the possibility that an attack of some sort, of that kind, was discussed inside US Goverment circles before hand? The two strands of scepticism are NOT the same.
Proof that Rumsfeld and other Neocons might have had such discussions, or even that they discussed how such events might play to the US Government's advantage, does not in any way amount to proof that they actually went as far as to plan and execute them. The two are not the same.
They certainly did reap political advantage afterwards -- again, not proof that they engineered 9/11 in advance rather than take advantage subsequently.
And in any case your case is harldly helped by all the wild and implausible speculation surrounding everything to do with 9/11, flourishing all over some very loopy websites -- this hardly helps your argument.
You appear to have been assuming, over several posts, that sceptics of conspiracy theories have opinions essentually shaped by the US Governmnent and establishment propoganda. If you argue along those lines, you'll lose the argument, because there's a very strong strand of CT-scepticism amongst left wing people who are ALSO very much cynical about, sceptical of and hostile to what the US Government has been getting up to.
Every time such independent minded and anti-establishment sceptics are insulted (even by implication) as dupes of Government propoganda for being sceptical about conspiracy theories, the more hostile those sceptics will become to the conspiracists. Very few conspiracy theorists appear to have any clear grasp of this simple fact.
Until they get their heads around it, they will fail to convince time after time.
