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Christ alive Apple threads have become boring as fuck these days...

Were they ever much different? I write tedious long posts, most of the issues have been done to death, Apple gets far too much attention in general, the pace of change cannot be fast enough to ensure a steady ability to say something original.
 
Apple iPad is announced

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Were they ever much different? I write tedious long posts, most of the issues have been done to death, Apple gets far too much attention in general, the pace of change cannot keep up with our pace of talking a subject to death.

They used to be speculative fun...now it's tedious same old same old....
 
Well there isnt too much to speculate about really is there, compared to the days before the iphone was first launched where there were so many unknowns.

Its understandable that Apple have reached this stage, whats sad for me is that there isnt more signs of competitors innovating in ways that can really get the speculative juices flowing. I suppose it happens sometimes, but then you get no end of people complaining that its all just speculation, vapourware etc.

In terms of the progress of computer technology reaching exciting new highs, I feel pretty spoilt really, Im not really moaning about lulls, if anything I look forward to more maturity of platforms and hope that resource & financial reality might actually get us to make better use of existing equipment rather than throwing it away so quickly.

Progress that will excite me in the near future is if the ipad is a roaring success that rubs off onto the tablet form in general, microsofts project natal, and hopefully some other stuff that isnt showing on my radar yet.
 
The more is read about this the more I am left with the feeling the Mobile OSX 4.0 is behind schedule and its what was intended to be used with the iPad, 3.2 is just the dev version made release because 4.0 isn't ready but the hardware is ready. 3.2 is good enough to launch the iPad with and get the coverage and they will launch version 4 to even more free advertising in a few months time.

I think there will be some significant changes to the system with OS4. 1GHz cpu is a bit of a waste and slightly pointless if it can't multi-task.
 
Curiously, New York Times reviewer David Pouge, has done two separate reviews – one for techies, and another one for regular folks.

There’s an e-book reader app, but it’s not going to rescue the newspaper and book industries. The selection is puny (60,000 titles for now). You can’t read well in direct sunlight. At 1.5 pounds, the iPad gets heavy in your hand after awhile (the Kindle is 10 ounces). And you can’t read books from the Apple bookstore on any other machine — not even a Mac or iPhone”.

When the iPad is upright, typing on the on-screen keyboard is a horrible experience; when the iPad is turned 90 degrees, the keyboard is just barely usable (because it’s bigger). A keyboard dock will be available in April, but then you’re carting around two pieces”. .
Ad in his second, 'consumer' review:
The simple act of making the multi touch screen bigger changes the whole experience. Maps become real maps, like the paper ones. Scrabble shows the whole board, without your having to zoom in and out. You see your e-mail inbox and the open message simultaneously”.

The new iBooks e-reader app is filled with endearing grace notes. For example, when you turn a page, the animated page edge actually follows your finger’s position and speed as it curls, just like a paper page. Font, size and brightness controls appear when you tap. Tap a word to get a dictionary definition, bookmark your spot or look it up on Google or Wikipedia. There’s even a rotation-lock switch on the edge of the iPad so you can read in bed on your side without fear that the image will rotate”.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/mixed-reviews-for-the-apple-ipad/112580-11.html
 
It's worthwhile pointing out that the other major review so far (leaving aside stephen fucking fry's frankly toe-curling effort in Time mag) was overwhelmingly positive...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304252704575155982711410678.html

And in fact contradicts a lot of what the NYT guy says.
Almost all of the ones I've seen have been positive, but many fall short of being 'overwhelmingly positive.' E.g. the Telegraph's:
But in several crucial areas, the iPad falls short of the functionality that would have made this more than just a large iPod touch. The lack of Flash support is a major issue; the iPad's big screen is designed to make the best of multimedia content and the full-screen browsing experience, but the sight of little blue squares dotted around web pages where embedded video should have been just makes you feel like you're being short-changed.

The iPad's inability to multi-task could also severely hamper its appeal. It's being pitched as a portable device that you could kick back and use on the sofa at home, but you can't listen to your Spotify playlists at the same time as writing an email, or browse the web while using an instant-messaging app to chat with friends. It's one or other, just as it is on the iPhone and iPod touch, but for the extra money you're paying for the iPad, you expect something more akin to a laptop computing experience...

But I think the backlighting of Apple's pin-sharp display is going to cause a lot of tired eyes; e-Ink is deeply unglamorous, but it does the job superbly, and I don't think serious bookworms will be swayed to chose the iPad over the Kindle or a Sony Reader....

The iPad is a lovely device that gadget fans will lust after, but I'm yet to be entirely convinced that it offers enough of an advantage over my smartphone or laptop. I do think it has the potential to be a game-changing device, but it will be the second- and third-generation versions that really drive the agenda, and introduce a new and innovative way of computing.

Ultimately, the iPad is a large iPod touch: a great device to draw your inspiration from, but perhaps not the seismic shift in technology that we were expecting.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7087088/Apple-iPad-review.html
I think the Telegraph review is closest to what I'm currently thinking (although when I get to touch the thing I may fall hopelessly in love and instantly buy one).
 
It is indeed a giant iPod touch... which is not a bad thing... I actually do most of my browsing these days on my iPod, even at home, where i have a desktop... I really only use that for design work and to watch football these days.

Surely they'll sort out the flash and multi-tasking things for the second version. And put a fucking camera on it so I can skype wherever i am. Those are the things that are stopping me buyin one first up. Hope they dont fuck around too long in sorting those issues.
 
I don't think you'll be getting a camera any time soon (that'll be the big amazing revolutionary feature to entice your wallet out for v2), but multi-tasking can't be far off.

If I had the spare cash, I could certainly see how an iPad would be a nice thing to have around the house.
 
May I point people in the direction of this post I made back in July 2008.
I reckon Apple is going to surprise everyone and launch a netbook/e-Reader/web/email tablet device with full wireless syncing and downloading of newspapers, books, movies and music files through a revamped iTunes.

It'll have a loooong battery life, look stylish, feature an onscreen keyboard (al la iPhone) with optional hardware keyboard and piss all over the great-idea-but-executed-badly Kindle reader.

And they'll clean up the market.
There were doubters. But I was spot on!

I am the tech seer!

*smug
 
no multitasking, no fun. my nokia e72 can multitask to some degree so it is just lame job by apple.

they will hit back with ipad pro once fanboys' wallets have been taxed.
 
So negatives so far are no Flash - *yawn*
and no Multitasking - see OS 4.0
There's a few more than that:

No camera.
No SD card
Virtual keyboard
No USB slots
No upgradeable memory
No webcam
Non replaceable battery
Heavier than the Kindle
No tabs in Safari
No GPS in wi-fi version
Hard to read in sunlight
Expensive in comparison to better spec'd laptop (although that's clearly not the point of this device)

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/04/01/neat-complete-list-positives-negatives-ipad-handson-reviews/
 
Apple iPad is announced

A tablet with a hardware keyboard would be a bit odd no?

Also how how many tablets currently on the market have everything listed above..?
 
A tablet with a hardware keyboard would be a bit odd no?
I dunno. I've seen various mock ups of tablets with fold out/slide out keyboards that looked interesting. I think having to lug around another keyboard is full of fail though - and I speak as someone who used to use a IR fold out keyboard with my old Sony TH55 PDA.
 
There's a few more than that:

No camera.
No SD card
Virtual keyboard
No USB slots
No upgradeable memory
No webcam
Non replaceable battery
Heavier than the Kindle
No tabs in Safari
No GPS in wi-fi version
Hard to read in sunlight
Expensive in comparison to better spec'd laptop (although that's clearly not the point of this device)

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/04/01/neat-complete-list-positives-negatives-ipad-handson-reviews/

jesus christ...


No slide out mirror for chopping lines
No firewire port
No PCMCIA port
No dual monitor option
No velcro on the back for sticking it to bus seat in front of you while your sitting on the bus.
No upgradable drive

btw, no camera? you want to take fucking pictures with this thing?
 
Apple iPad is announced

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I dunno. I've seen various mock ups of tablets with fold out/slide out keyboards that looked interesting. I think having to lug around another keyboard is full of fail though - and I speak as someone who used to use a IR fold out keyboard with my old Sony TH55 PDA.

Maybe I misunderstand but I thought a tablet was a clean surface you write/interact with without mouse or keyboard?
 
Maybe I misunderstand but I thought a tablet was a clean surface you write/interact with without mouse or keyboard?
I don't believe that definition actually exists for electronic devices any more than a digital camera is defined as a thing for taking pictures on, and not video/sound etc.
 
Why not? Just about everything else comes with a built in camera (phones, netbooks, laptops) and they sure are handy things. That's why just about everything else comes with one, you see.

well if everything else comes with one, then that's a good enough reason to me not to include one on the iPad - ludicrous idea.
 
I don't believe that definition actually exists for electronic devices any more than a digital camera is defined as a thing for taking pictures on, and not video/sound etc.

once again you are missing the whole point of this thing - honestly, give it up and go and find something that will bring you some semblance of happiness - you've wasted far too much time on something that will never bring you satisfaction.
 
well if everything else comes with one, then that's a good enough reason to me not to include one on the iPad - ludicrous idea.

Um, yes, both a camera *and* a webcam are key to its success imo.

I'd use the cam for design work all the time and a webcam would let me sit in bed and vid skype my friends
 
a camera? crazy talk.

Why:confused:
I'm a photographer & my props stylist & I can spend an whole day selecting stuff for a particular shoot & taking dozens of photo's of items to send to clients for approval etc.
That task would be perfectly suited to an iPad with a camera.
 
well if everything else comes with one, then that's a good enough reason to me not to include one on the iPad - ludicrous idea.
So how do you get a picture of something onto your iPad and email it to someone? Or maybe snap a mag article or something you want to remember? Any ideas?
 
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