Undercover cop tonight CH4 9PM (14th Nov)

[trevhagl]

with that Mark Stone/Kennedy gadgie, should be interesting.

 

[Stoat Boy]

Looking forward to this.

Heard an interview with him on Radio 5 a couple of weeks ago and the bloke sounded like a broken man.

 

[editor]

Please put the date in the title next time.

 

[Maggot]

Just starting.

I hope he is a broken man.

 

[Maggot]

What a cunt!

Cheating on his wife and deceiving the activist he was having an affair with.

At least he got a good beating from his colleagues.

 

[editor]

Fucking hell - those Dutch cops were disgracefully brutal.

 

[Maggot]

Danish cops.

 

[London_Calling]

I'm afraid to say, it's a film waiting to be made - so many perfect ingredients.

It also struck me that his life is now so fucked up he only has one choice - to start again as someone else.

It also struck me there's a lot more to him than we saw; it was basically a 60-min plea for sympathy. Well, fuck off you cunt.

 

[rekil]

MARK KENNEDY: I was more than happy to go to the Danish Film Festival. I think it was important to engage and am willing to do so at future events. My reason for not going was because the film festival asked me not to attend becasue they were worried about trying to provide security and as a result of this decision the documentary makers who have a duty of care towards me felt they could not meet that. Lets have a debate at the next one.

Debate is it? I hope they give him a debate. A debate up the arse.

 

[editor]

Danish cops.

Sorry, yes. They were dreadful.

 

[josef1878]

He looks ill to me, like he cries himself to sleep at night. Alone. With a bottle.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Curious comment on the Q&A:

11:02



Comment From mally
I've asked a few questions Mark to no response. I admire you and take my hat off to you and truely wish you luck in life.... Its time to build bridges and move on. Its been 15 months since i resigned. Like you i became a no one... I cried and hated myself for what i did.

 

[rekil]

That Q&A was more like a support group for him.

 

[mr steev]

That Q&A was more like a support group for him.

Wasn't it?
The last two comments...

11:02​

Comment From jason paterson ​

dont look back move forward mark - respect​

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11:03

Comment From Jane a ​

Good luck to you and use your gained wisdom well​

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My heart bleeds

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Fucking hell - those Dutch cops were disgracefully brutal.

I remember reading on the net about the collapse of that Dutch social centre. I was saddened to find out. It had apparently been there for years and the police had no chance of getting it closed.

I didn't know until seeing the documentary that Mark Kennedy had been responsible for the intelligence-gathering that enabled the Dutch police to close the place. I was disgusted. I don't understand why the British police feel that they should be getting involved abroad.

It used to be that police forces operated locally to a town or district in the UK. They were democratically accountable to a degree. Now they are linking up with our national security services regularly. Once they work with national security it slips on to international securtity. These secret services are not democratically accountable.

 

[DaveCinzano]

DANISH.

DANISH social centre. DANISH police.

 

[editor]

DANISH.

DANISH ...DANISH ....

Don't mind if I do, ta.

 

[London_Calling]

Maybe they were undercover Dutch police....

 

[Pickman's model]

He looks ill to me, like he cries himself to sleep at night. Alone. With a bottle.

good.

 

[josef1878]

Don't mind if I do, ta.

That's just made me hungry. I could just eat the one bottom left that looks like a cross between the 2012 olympic logo and a swastika

 

[Mr Smin]

Are there Danish Nazis infiltrating the delicious snack industry?

Hocus, the normal police are not democratically accountable either. There has been talk of elected chief constables or something though.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Yep, that docu reinforced the fact he's a cunt.

 

[purenarcotic]

I had to laugh when he was crying; did he really expect us to feel sorry for him?

Also cracked up when he basically admitted that what he was doing was ridiculous and saw more harm in what he was doing than good.

What a cunt.

 

[girasol]

I had to laugh when he was crying; did he really expect us to feel sorry for him?

I felt a bit sorry for him What a story! I really don't know how he reconciled it all in his mind, he must have believed what he was doing was the right thing at first, and in the end he clearly realised it wasn't.

Anyone who thinks we have a free right to protest is deluding themselves

 

[purenarcotic]

I felt a bit sorry for him What a story! I really don't know how he reconciled it all in his mind, he must have believed what he was doing was the right thing at first, and in the end he clearly realised it wasn't.

Anyone who thinks we have a free right to protest is deluding themselves

I don't. He's since gone on to get a job in a private security firm that spys on protestors. I don't feel sorry for him at all.

He admitted several times that he thought the response by the police was disproportionate and said he felt ashamed to be a police officer after he was beaten, and this was pretty early on in the whole undercover project. He could have walked away at any time, but he didn't. He could have blown the lid on the real response by the police to protestors, but he didn't.

He has arguably sexually abused a young woman as how on earth could she give informed consent when he was living a complete lie; there may be no convictions but I can't imagine she's going to walk away from this all without some pretty serious paranoia when it comes to her next relationship.

I'm not sure how we're supposed to feel sorry for him. And I'm a pretty mushy person when it comes to having empathy for people.

Completely agree on your point about free right to protest.

 

[belboid]

I had to laugh when he was crying; did he really expect us to feel sorry for him?

some fuckers did, from the crap posted up on the online chat afterwards. strangely, the moderators seemed to pull any questions along the lines of 'why dont you kill yourself, you cunt?'

 

[Maggot]

some fuckers did, from the crap posted up on the online chat afterwards. strangely, the moderators seemed to pull any questions along the lines of 'why dont you kill yourself, you cunt?'

That's hardly surprising.

I thought the moderating was fair. They allowed questions like this:

Do you feel guilt or any remorse for those people who's trust you gained, lives you became part of and then betrayed in the most unforgivable way? ARE YOU SORRY?

You lied to everyone, your friends, lovers, wife, and your bosses - why should anyone take what you have to say now with anything other than a very large pinch of salt?

 

[grit]

He has arguably sexually abused a young woman as how on earth could she give informed consent when he was living a complete lie; there may be no convictions but I can't imagine she's going to walk away from this all without some pretty serious paranoia when it comes to her next relationship.

That has been a point I hadnt considered until it was raised in the programme. While it was a completely unethical act and obviously beyond the bounds of his job. It made me wonder, if I go to a nightclub, tell a woman a whole pack of lies and she sleeps with me under those pretences. Does society deem it that I have sexually abused her?

 

[DaveCinzano]

The question is, have you been sent to that nightclub by your boss to pretend to be someone that you are not, with instructions to snoop around and befriend her and anyone connected to her, finding out whatever intimate details about her and their lives you can, possibly to implicate them in criminal activity precipitated by you, all whilst you're making £250,000 a year? And then you fuck her, like a big piece of meat?

If so, then yes, you've sexually abused her.

 

[belboid]

That has been a point I hadnt considered until it was raised in the programme. While it was a completely unethical act and obviously beyond the bounds of his job. It made me wonder, if I go to a nightclub, tell a woman a whole pack of lies and she sleeps with me under those pretences. Does society deem it that I have sexually abused her?

If you continued to do so over four years, I'd go with 'yes.'