The Angel pub, the Royal Zanettos and Edwardian music hall

[editor]

I really enjoyed reading about the Angel's association with a music hall act called The Royal Zanettos at the turn of the century.

As well as being performers they were also publicans at the Angel for a while.

I tried to see if they ever played the Brixton Empress or Brixton Theatre, but couldn't find anything. Can anyone find any other local connections to them?

More: http://www.urban75.org/blog/the-ang...ton-and-its-edwardian-music-hall-connections/

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

In case you need dates, Albert Bale was resident there in 1901 and looks like he was the landlord

BALE, Albert head single M 25 Tavern keeper (employer) Bayswater London
BUDGE servant single F 43 Manageress (worker) Yeovil, Somerset
AKHURST, Frank servant single M 24 Barman (worker) Faversham, Kent
WORTLEY, Louisa servant single F 27 Barmaid (worker) Kennington, London
CHAMP, Mary servant single F 35 Cook Domestic (worker) Herne Hill, London
TERCIER, Jules servant single M 19 Waiter (worker) Switzerland
LINNARD, Patrick servant single M 29 Potman (worker) Bolton, Lancashire

Was still there in 1904

 

[Brixton Hatter]

^^^^Aged 25 and running a pub

Love those old pictures of the pub:

There seems to have been a trend in the early 1900s of getting all the locals from a pub to stand outside and get a photo - like this:

I assume it was because decent photography was becoming available for the first time and people wanted to record social stuff. There's some fantastic pictures in the Marquis of Lorne of all the locals standing outside the pub in the 1930s. The photo was then repeated by locals a few years ago. I'll try to remember to get pics of them so I can post them up some time.

E2A: just noticed there is a guy in a babysuit holding a monkey, wtf

 

[editor]

E2A: just noticed there is a guy in a babysuit holding a monkey, wtf

They were music hall performers so presumably that was one of the acts.

I was surprised to see how many female comedians were playing the music halls.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

^^^^Aged 25 and running a pub

Love those old pictures of the pub:

There seems to have been a trend in the early 1900s of getting all the locals from a pub to stand outside and get a photo - like this:

I assume it was because decent photography was becoming available for the first time and people wanted to record social stuff. There's some fantastic pictures in the Marquis of Lorne of all the locals standing outside the pub in the 1930s. The photo was then repeated by locals a few years ago. I'll try to remember to get pics of them so I can post them up some time.

E2A: just noticed there is a guy in a babysuit holding a monkey, wtf

I think babysuit guy is listed as a clown. Monkeys were/still are (in some countries) common in entertainment

 

[editor]

I think babysuit guy is listed as a clown. Monkeys were/still are (in some countries) common in entertainment

I've booked worse at Offline.

 

[JaneBaleKoszuta]

Hello to those of you who've commented on the photo which, like the postcard, is part of my website www.TheRoyalZanettos.com. This photo also prompted the following message from The Grand Order of Water Rats:
The picture seems to be for July 29th about 1914, as Brinsworth House was not opened till 1911.
The Fete advertised is for Brinsworth and this was a home for retired showbiz artists sponsored by
various charities such as The Grand Order of Water Rats and the E.A.B.F.
The guy with the monkey is my great-uncle George Bale of The Royal Zanettos, who also performed solo as George Zanetto. The Bale brothers owned various pubs, including The Tower, Westminster Bridge Rd., which is where this particular photo was taken.
My grandfather William "Pip" Bale got interested in photography in the early 1900s, and because the Zanettos were in music-hall, there are many photos of them both for professional purposes and also for fun!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Great history there Jane and great that you have so many photos of them

 

[boohoo]

I was going to sat do they have any connection with Fred Karno but I can see from the website that they do.

Make you wonder whether Chaplin and Stan Laurel ever visited the pub.

 

[boohoo]

On the Ellis Island record of a crossing in 1907, one family member lives on Geneva Street

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/geneva-road-brixton.html

Another on Gately Road.

 

[JaneBaleKoszuta]

I love all these comments! And want you all to know how gratifying it is for me, living in France, to hear from people who live in Brixton, reminding me of childhood memories of South London and bringing to life all the hours of research I wanted to share a Brixton newspaper clipping with you (pdf or jpg) but can't figure out how to do it - can someone help please?

 

[Dan U]

have you tried uploading it to imageshack and then linking it to here?

http://imageshack.us/

i love threads like this on urban

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Albert and George in 1911

In the 1911 census, Albert is down as living at:

19A Kings Avenue (so still localish) in the Upper Flat

He is living with George (44) who is now a widower and Albert himself is single

Jessica Georgina Bale (aged 19) is also resident there and is listed as having been born in Brixton

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Frank Bale in 1911

Frank was living with his wife Kate in 6 Norfolk Street, Bognor along with their daughter Dorothy (16) and their son Arthur (15) and Violet (8)

Both Dorothy and Arthur are also down as Music Hall Artists

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

William in 1911

Living - 26 Eswyn Road, Tooting Graveney

Living with his wife of 11 years Lilian Edith

Kids with them:

Leslie George (10)
Albert Edward (9)
Lilian May (2)

and

Frederic George Chapman (58) - William's father-in-law

 

[editor]

I love all these comments! And want you all to know how gratifying it is for me, living in France, to hear from people who live in Brixton, reminding me of childhood memories of South London and bringing to life all the hours of research I wanted to share a Brixton newspaper clipping with you (pdf or jpg) but can't figure out how to do it - can someone help please?

You could mail it to me urban75 - at - gmail.com

 

[JaneBaleKoszuta]

The above events in Brixton were reported in The Pall Mall Gazette on 29th November 1895, and thank you "Dan U" for advice on how to upload!
The characters are:
Sidney Prosser (brother of "The Beautiful Jessica" Prosser, George Bale's wife).
William "Pip" Bale (George's brother).
Mary Fleming (Pip's mistress with whom he had 3 kids while married to his 1st wife Minnie with whom he had 2 kids). Mary later married artiste Tom Leamore.
Joe O'Gorman (Jessica's lover whom she married after George Bale divorced her).

 

[editor]

Nice bit of history turned up on ebay: