ChrisSouth
Well-Known Member
There's rumours of Tesco Express coming to LJ, in the old Mucky Duck pub. Anyone else heard of this?
Tesco coming to Loughborough Junction?
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hiraethified
They'd have to demolish the pub first. It's a wreck.
http://www.urban75.org/blog/the-crown-mucky-duck-201-coldharbour-lane-sw9-awaits-its-fate/
http://www.urban75.org/blog/the-crown-mucky-duck-201-coldharbour-lane-sw9-awaits-its-fate/
ChrisSouth
Well-Known Member
Someone's currently working on it. Scaffolding, building supplies delivered, reconstruction work going on
ringo
Macaroni cheese controller
The building works have been ongoing in some form or another for at least a year, but I hadn't seen anything since before Xmas. Deliveries must mean somethings happening though.
Don't suppose it'll ever be a pub again, its looked good for little other than demolition for such a long time. Unlike most old boozers I wouldn't actually miss it. Tesco would severely dent the trade to the smaller shops around LJ but tbh it's hardly a vibrant community of shops, the Jamaican take away and one grocer on the corner of Luxor Street are the only really friendly shops. The rest scowl at every customer the same way they do at the marauding drunks and crack heads. Can't blame them I suppose.
Don't suppose it'll ever be a pub again, its looked good for little other than demolition for such a long time. Unlike most old boozers I wouldn't actually miss it. Tesco would severely dent the trade to the smaller shops around LJ but tbh it's hardly a vibrant community of shops, the Jamaican take away and one grocer on the corner of Luxor Street are the only really friendly shops. The rest scowl at every customer the same way they do at the marauding drunks and crack heads. Can't blame them I suppose.
Thaw
Aye like, so it is.
I got an email from the Loughborough Junction Action Group tonight with the news that Tesco have applied for planning permission to turn the old Warrior pub into a Tesco Express. Apparently the permission is for some of the details like new doors and an ATM.
http://planning.lambeth.gov.uk/onli...E8ACF9?activeTab=summary&keyVal=000N6TBOLI000
I'm not exactly a fan of Tesco's quest for world domination but as ringo says above, its not like they're going to be destroying a functional high-street.
http://planning.lambeth.gov.uk/onli...E8ACF9?activeTab=summary&keyVal=000N6TBOLI000
I'm not exactly a fan of Tesco's quest for world domination but as ringo says above, its not like they're going to be destroying a functional high-street.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
There is a fairly decent food/off licence shop opposite though, I imagine that'll suffer when Tesco opens. But that parade could do with a few decent shops. And I imagine there's a fair bit of disposable income in that area given the area is 'in motion'.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I saw the new Tesco at the Russell Hotel the other day. I hate to say it, but it actually looks ok
*runs and hides*
*runs and hides*
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
I don't think Loughborough Junction is that bad. It's only that parade around the station which is a bit grotty.
That shop has been there for donkeys and the latest people are very nice,fucking Tesco will fuck them.Since the demise of the Green man and the Warrior(and the very helpful cab place) that little area has suffered(the shop on the other side is OK as well in spite of some bad publicity) I fear ?Tesco will kill it stone dead,as for LJ in motion around there I don't think so.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I'm not sure teuchter moving there really counts.
Also I'm sure he'd prefer a Waitrose anyway.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
As others have said the shop over the road is good - it probably has a better range of stuff than most "metro" supermarkets, the people that run it are nice, and it's hard to imagine that they won't suffer if a Tesco opens opposite them. And there's already another small grocery shop a few doors down from the proposed Tesco site, and the vegetable shop too. I don't see what benefit a Tesco would be to the area. I would happily oppose the planning application.
As for the people scoffing about LJ being "in motion" - scoff on. Those of us who live here know about things you don't.
By the way, as far as returning life to the main road is concerned - the coffee shop in the arch by the entrance to the train station has now got a licence and is trying opening late on Thurs/Fri (I think) evenings. Hopefully that will be a success.
As for the people scoffing about LJ being "in motion" - scoff on. Those of us who live here know about things you don't.
By the way, as far as returning life to the main road is concerned - the coffee shop in the arch by the entrance to the train station has now got a licence and is trying opening late on Thurs/Fri (I think) evenings. Hopefully that will be a success.
Thaw
Aye like, so it is.
I've always found the one across the road from Warrior a bit grim..more alcoholics and beggars than the others and everything just a bit dirty and past the use by date. But I haven't been in for a while so maybe its improved. I can think of about 7 shops round there that basically just sell the same old stuff, including booze, so Tesco is hardly addressing a pressing need for convenience shops. But the main reason for objecting to Tesco is usually the loss of 'retail diversity' which clearly isn't the case here either. The ATM is a good enough reason to support it as all the others round there charge £1.75 a go which is a bit of a piss-take in a deprived area.
I suppose the tactical thinking is to drive most of the other shops out to reduce the number of off-licences in a saturated area. Is it a coincidence that this happening just as the Lboro Rd/CH Lane junction has had proper pedestrian crossings sorted out?
I suppose the tactical thinking is to drive most of the other shops out to reduce the number of off-licences in a saturated area. Is it a coincidence that this happening just as the Lboro Rd/CH Lane junction has had proper pedestrian crossings sorted out?
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hiraethified
Loughborough Junction desperately needs some investment. It's gone from a bustling local shopping area well served with pubs to, well, just about nothing.
http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/loughborough8.html
http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/loughborough8.html
ringo
Macaroni cheese controller
Loughborough Junction desperately needs some investment. It's gone from a bustling local shopping area well served with pubs to, well, just about nothing.
http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/loughborough8.html
Lovely shot that, ta.
That's me you cunt.
I thought it was because they are evil shitbags.
Thaw
Aye like, so it is.
Well, I was thinking in terms of objections that might reasonably be taken account of the Planning Officers. I can't really see the following exchange taking place:
Tesco: Why aren't you giving us planning permission?
Lambeth: You're cunts.
Tesco: Oh, alright then. Fair enough.
More likely conversation:
Tesco: Why aren't you giving us planning permission?
Lambeth:Because your application is stuck in a bureaucratic black hole
Tesco: How about a bung?
Lambeth: That'll do nicely sir.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
That doesn't reflect the current reality in any way whatsoever.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Except for several grocers' shops, a pharmacy, an art gallery, a cinema, a couple of hairdressers, a vegetable shop, the Cambria with events on most nights of the week, a bunch of manufacturing and other industries, artist's studios, mechanics' workshops, a couple of good cafes, one of London's biggest art/stage set fabricators, trains to the centre of London in 10 minutes, and a whole load of other stuff.
It's not as bad as it appears from the area immediately along Coldharbour Lane. It's certainly a shame that those pubs are closed but the area is hardly devoid of life.
editor
hiraethified
Come on: there's only one pub where there used to be five, there's no late bars, the shops aren't exactly brilliant. you can't get into the cinema because it's over subscribed and the small artists studios are fine - if you're an artist and have managed to get one of the very limited places. The rest of the stuff is just dandy if you're actually employed in those small industries but it's hardly great if you want to socialise in your own area. Oh, and the train service has been fucking awful on weekends for ages (awful as in non existent much of the time).
There's a lot less going on compared to ten years ago, and that's a real shame. Moreover the centre of the area looks well down at heel. The real shame is that the Warrior - with its own on-premises brewery couldn't have hung on a bit longer. That place would be doing really well now.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Do you work for an estate agent?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I'm not going to disagree that it's a shame so many pubs got closed down.
I'm just taking issue with the perception that it's somehow a scene of utter desolation, or as you put it "just about nothing". That's nonsense.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
When I first moved to that area shown in the photos over 30 years ago it was thriving, shop-wise. I really miss the Cypriot shop. Great bread, great everything really.
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hiraethified
I didn't use the phrase "utter desolation" but with ALL the pubs gone in the centre of Loughborough Junction, and a fairly uninspiring collection of shops remaining - many run down and in poor condition - I'd say it's pretty grim compared to what was there ten years ago (which was, as I'm sure you recall, the comparison I was making).
fogbat
The Talibum
The Ed must have been a young man when he took that.
ringo
Macaroni cheese controller
Been in Loughborough Junction 11 years, moving a mile or two south this year, but more to get off the estate, get an affordable house and be nearer mates than just to get away from the area..
I don't think it's as rough as it used to be, and I can honestly say I've never had any trouble the whole time I've been there. The Green Man was always dodgy but at least it was open. The shutting of all the pubs has really ripped the guts out of the area, the only slight benefit being that it's not such a crime hotspot as it was.
The place has seen a lot of the old housing stock done up and quite a lot of new blocks of flats built, but the shops to support those people have gone downhill. House prices have risen quite a bit, no shortage of affluent residents - the Thameslink direct to Blackfriars/Farringon/King X attracts plenty of city commuters.
Most of the shops sell the same lower end booze, Tesco will corner the market in wine above the £5 mark and all sorts of others 'luxury' items. Every affluent shopper will immediately go there and the smaller businesses will lose their custom. Doesn't bode well for them.
I don't think it's as rough as it used to be, and I can honestly say I've never had any trouble the whole time I've been there. The Green Man was always dodgy but at least it was open. The shutting of all the pubs has really ripped the guts out of the area, the only slight benefit being that it's not such a crime hotspot as it was.
The place has seen a lot of the old housing stock done up and quite a lot of new blocks of flats built, but the shops to support those people have gone downhill. House prices have risen quite a bit, no shortage of affluent residents - the Thameslink direct to Blackfriars/Farringon/King X attracts plenty of city commuters.
Most of the shops sell the same lower end booze, Tesco will corner the market in wine above the £5 mark and all sorts of others 'luxury' items. Every affluent shopper will immediately go there and the smaller businesses will lose their custom. Doesn't bode well for them.
ChrisSouth
Well-Known Member
I'm also assuming that Tesco won't sell single cigarette's to underage kids.....
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