Smack A Whiteboy: Mentalist US identity politics.

[revol68]

I never thought I'd be sympathetic to those crustie Crimethinc muppets but...

Dread locked white punks, crusties with their scabies friends, and traveling college bros swarmed a space on the dividing line of gentrification in the Bloomfield/Garfield/Friendship area late July 09 in Pittsburgh for the annual CrimethInc convergence. Whereas previous CrimethInc convergences had been located deep in wooded areas, this particular one took place in a poor, black neighborhood that is being pushed to the borders by entering white progressive forces.

There were those that had experienced CrimethInc's oppressive culture and people for years and others who had experienced enough oppression after just a few days. Our goals were to stop CrimethInc, their gentrifying force, and to end the convergence right then and there for all that they had done.

For the full mental report read here

WTF is in the water in the US?

 

[Pickman's model]

what's in the fucking water here, is more to the point. your link doesn't work.

 

[revol68]

works now.

 

[Pickman's model]

what're pocs and apocs? and what the bloody fuck's a persyn?

 

[5t3IIa]

“On the count of three. One, two, three!” one apocista said.

“Get the fuck out!”, we all shouted.

Their shit doesn't rhyme

 

[Pickman's model]

why can't they speak english. it's partly in english & partly in mad yank jargon

 

[5t3IIa]

Have you found what 'apoc' means yet?

How come it is 'persyns of color' and 'white people'? It's racist and makes me sick. I am a persyn of no-color

Oh wait - apoc = a persyn of color

 

[Pickman's model]

apoc - a piece of cake?

fuck knows. they should have a fucking glossary about it

 

[5t3IIa]

Did you vote in the poll?

 

[Pickman's model]

ah -

Apoc- the acronym stands for anarchist/anti-authoritarian/autonomous people
of color. It is the name of different collectives and groups. it is also an
individual identity, and a movement. Anyone who is such can claim the
acronym apoc. ie, you don't have to go to meetings to bash back, you don't
have to have a group to be apoc.

 

[camouflage]

why can't they speak english. it's partly in english & partly in mad yank jargon

Mad AnarchoYank jargon you mean.

 

[camouflage]

I don't understand any of this. It's all quite alien and strange. Anarchists from Mars if you will.

 

[5t3IIa]

At least they're doing something

it's not all five-a-side football

 

[DotCommunist]

I don't understand any of this. It's all quite alien and strange. Anarchists from Mars if you will.

I have to say it's almost 60's radical writing in feel. Anarchos on acid or something.


'womyn' instead of woman' though. That made me lol.

 

[camouflage]

At least they're doing something

it's not all five-a-side football

Yes, but what are they doing? Lot's of using the word "Collective" it seems.

Down with the 57th Queen of the Degenerated Blue Hive of Om! We Want Xah-Tu!!!

 

[5t3IIa]

CrimethInc is another anarcho collective. They are eating themselves!

 

[revol68]

I have to say it's almost 60's radical writing in feel. Anarchos on acid or something.


'womyn' instead of woman' though. That made me lol.

To be fair this shit is worse than anything from the 60's.

 

[revol68]

CrimethInc is another anarcho collective. They are eating themselves!

Crimethinc are a bunch of drop out lifestyle anarchist, though that isn't APOC@s problem with them, APOC's problem is that they are mostly white.

 

[5t3IIa]

This infighting will never get things done. I'm OUTRAGED.

 

[revol68]

This infighting will never get things done. I'm OUTRAGED.

none of those groups are relevant, the fact APOC attacked the crimethincers only shows how fucking mental identity politics have become in the states.

 

[5t3IIa]

They need a leader.

 

[revol68]

They need a leader.

they need sectioning.

 

[5t3IIa]

They need a collectivising incentive and idenify the real enemy to go to WAR

 

[camouflage]

They need a leader.

They need an Anarchist Furher

 

[camouflage]

Crimethinc are a bunch of drop out lifestyle anarchist, though that isn't APOC@s problem with them, APOC's problem is that they are mostly white.

Racism and gun-ownership is an integral part of American culture, it's their way and it's not our place to judge them. Like female circumcision in islamic Africa for instance.

 

[JimW]

It'll all get swept away like the chaff it is in the breaking torrent as and when the class rises again and acts for itself - we can but hope. Five-a-side football will likely survive tho.

 

[Fruitloop]

True dat.

 

[butchersapron]

Nonsense - sport is totally integrated into a framework of inter-state rivalry, capitalist production and class relations. As an ideology, transmitted on a huge scale by the media, it is part and parcel of ruling bourgeois ideology. The hierarchical structure of sport reflects the social structure of capitalism and its system of competitive selection, promotion, hierarchy and social advancement. The driving forces in sport performance, competitiveness, records are mirrors of the driving forces of capitalist production.

 

[5t3IIa]

Nonsense - sport is totally integrated into a framework of inter-state rivalry, capitalist production and class relations. As an ideology, transmitted on a huge scale by the media, it is part and parcel of ruling bourgeois ideology. The hierarchical structure of sport reflects the social structure of capitalism and its system of competitive selection, promotion, hierarchy and social advancement. The driving forces in sport performance, competitiveness, records are mirrors of the driving forces of capitalist production.

But it's the only way some of these groups will ever talk to each other. I've heard.

 

[JimW]

Nonsense - sport is totally integrated into a framework of inter-state rivalry, capitalist production and class relations. As an ideology, transmitted on a huge scale by the media, it is part and parcel of ruling bourgeois ideology. The hierarchical structure of sport reflects the social structure of capitalism and its system of competitive selection, promotion, hierarchy and social advancement. The driving forces in sport performance, competitiveness, records are mirrors of the driving forces of capitalist production.

This is true as far as it goes but obviated by the inevitable headless chicken running around after the ball in the amateur five-a-side game which defies not just hierarchy but basic common sense. No competitive selection; quite the reverse, you're lucky if those who agreed actually show up in sufficient numbers to get a game on. As such, it is a microcosm of the triumph of hope over experience that has kept the flame of liberty burning these centuries past.