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i wonder if we can find anyone to defend rape threats? there's got to be someone on here who will do that.
'Satire'i wonder if we can find anyone to defend rape threats? there's got to be someone on here who will do that.
i wonder if we can find anyone to defend rape threats? there's got to be someone on here who will do that.
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So was the different verdicts down to the jury deciding that she wasn't too drunk to consent when she met the first bloke, but by the time she got to the hotel she was, so the first bloke could have a reasonable belief to consent as she wasn't too drunk when she agreed to go to the hotel, but Ched having arrived later never had a time when she was able to give consent, or was it that she was never able to give consent but because the first bloke met her after the pub in relatively normal circumstances this would mean that he would have a reasonable belief that she could consent, whereas Ched coming to the hotel following the text was clearly being a predatory fuck and no way he could have a reasonable belief of consent?
Cos if it's the latter then I don't see how these cases open the doors to prosecuting people after drunken one-night stands, if anything I'd say that they show that you're not going to get a conviction in those circumstances, or the first bloke would have been convicted too, surely?
If it's the former then I'm not convinced it directly relates either, since Ched's behaviour wasn't that of someone on the pull on a friday night, where the first bloke's behaviour was*. I think that the jury would be able to see the difference between the actions and why one is rape and the other isn't (necessarily). I don't know how this would change if the people only ever met when one was too drunk to consent though.
*someone who is a predatory rapist and going out on a friday/sat night to find women who are too drunk and take advantage of them will behave in a very similar way to someone who isn't a predatory rapist but pulls someone and genuinely thinks they can give consent, so it's not like there isn't a grey area in reality, but that may be all that means he got acquitted as it couldn't be shown beyond reasonable doubt that he was on the pull and not reasonable to know she was too far gone, rather than heading out to target very drunk women.
The fact the two blokes legged it seems to suggest to me they were suspect
Police are investigating a website set up by Ched Evans' family after a video showing the woman he raped appeared online.
The CCTV footage showed his victim arriving at the Rhyl hotel, where she was raped by the disgraced footballer.
North Wales Police said they were "aware" of the video, which has since been removed, and were "looking into" the website.
banteri wonder if we can find anyone to defend rape threats? there's got to be someone on here who will do that.
Oh aye? No additional yelps about the right to freedom of speech?banter
the Sheffield fans are on the banter bus and it's all a bit of banter
I'm sure they would be yelping a lot if their female friends were receiving rape threatsOh aye? No additional yelps about the right to freedom of speech?
You'd think so, wouldn't you!I'm sure they would be yelping a lot if their female friends were receiving rape threats
I've thought about it but I don't want to give it any more hits - I suspect this thread's given it enough already.Yeah, I'd recommend a little wander round that website for anyone not totally sure where they stand on this...
I thought I'd misheard him this morning. What a fucking slut-shaming wanker. I must remember to turn the radio off this evening - if I have to listen to the Moral Maze discussing this subject, I may end up bashing my lovely DAB radio with a hammerThat daft fuck Michael Buerk wades in, with a bit of abuse for the victim:
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...-says-bbcs-michael-buerk/ar-BBaByp9?ocid=iehp
I thought I'd misheard him this morning. What a fucking slut-shaming wanker. I must remember to turn the radio off this evening - if I have to listen to the Moral Maze discussing this subject, I may end up bashing my lovely DAB radio with a hammer
Yeah, I'd recommend a little wander round that website for anyone not totally sure where they stand on this...
22 pages says 'yeah'Is there a position other than he did it, was sentenced.
So apparent did Judy whatshernames daughter because of the comments Judy made. Which is just, well I can't think of a word for it.saw on twitter that the woman who started the petition asking Sheff Utd not to sign Ched Evans (150,000+ signatures) has been getting rape threats from ched supporters
I guess people did used to threaten to rape feminists.
Anyway like I said, I think it's weird.
It's common on the internet, that was my point.They still do, every day. It's been in the papers quite a bit recently.
It's pretty common for something "weird."
Is there an actual video of the rape itself??Despite the video of him doing it?
Oh dear.
They still do, every day. It's been in the papers quite a bit recently.
It's pretty common for something "weird."
So he's basically apologising to everyone except the woman he raped?Evans has released a personal video statement, basically apologising for his 'infidelity' and begging to be allowed to play football, claimed it was consensual,and he was stupid not a word about his victim