Nationalism?

[Stanley Edwards]

Chauvanism? Any difference?

Personally I see little wrong in a bit of pride in your own national culture. Where would you draw the line?

It is the first question any traveler is asked anywhere. Why is it so important?

 

[Ming]

Not into it myself. I think that having pride in something that you haven't accomplished yourself is a bit daft. Plus all the problems nationalism has produced through history.

 

[editor]

Yes, but come on Wales! Crush the Englisch on Saturday!

 

[Brubricker]

I think that having pride in something that you haven't accomplished yourself is a bit daft.

Why expect pride to be rational? If we could all be free of our own thick-headed stupidities then we wouldn't have the joys of this topic and all its wonderful cruelties.

 

[Ming]

Yes, but come on Wales! Crush the Englisch on Saturday!

No chance.

 

[coley]

Yes, but come on Wales! Crush the Englisch on Saturday!

Your hopes are doomed

 

[goldenecitrone]

Come on England! Haut die Walisisch, platt wie ein Holztisch.

 

[Ming]

That's easy for you to say.

 

[MillwallShoes]

big difference between admiring and having pride in good things that happen in your own country, than thinking them things are some weird outcome of race, or are unattainable to other "nations".

how can you not love some things that happen in this country? i am not cynical enough to believe that even the good things are a result of "evil capitalism".

 

[danny la rouge]

Chauvanism? Any difference?

Yes. A dictionary may help you out with this.

 

[Lemon Eddy]

It is a truth widely acknowledged that the universe is a finely balanced set of opposing forces, ideals and principles: Anti-matter to matter, ying to yang, good to evil.

As such, if it is right to be sceptical and wary of the French in all things*, then it must equally be right to feel some pride for not being French. Thus, by feeling a reasonable degree of national pride, you are merely being in touch with the universe.


* as it most obviously is. All requests for citations for this will be treated with disdain and contempt.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, but come on Wales! Crush the Englisch on Saturday!

But on sunday nothing will have changed.

 

[Lemon Eddy]

But on sunday nothing will have changed.

I think you're expecting a bit much from a sporting event.

 

[Ming]

It's all just a bit of fun really (I'd better go to sleep I'm pissed).

 

[coley]

But on sunday nothing will have changed.

Little you know,England will be a joyful place with smiles all round, pity for the Welsh though.

 

[editor]

But on sunday nothing will have changed.

You are quite wrong. If Wales win, pubs will have turned vast profits, Caroline St will be awash with late night chip-eaters, there will be fights, fun and frolics and and a large chunk of the Valleys will rise very late the next day.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think you're expecting a bit much from a sporting event.

"crush the englisch"? it's not me who's expecting anything whatsoever to happen on saturday.

 

[Pickman's model]

You are quite wrong. If Wales win, pubs will have turned vast profits, Caroline St will be awash with late night chip-eaters, there will be fights, fun and frolics and and a large chunk of the Valleys will rise very late the next day.

quite a few people in the valleys will have seen chunks rise on saturday night the way you tell it.

 

[MillwallShoes]

just as grim as the "engeerrrllaaaannndd" flag waver, is the po-faced bore who starts dry-wretching at the sight of a st georges flag because deep within them it disgusts them. there's a balance between the two positions imo that is about right.

 

[Pickman's model]

just as grim as the "engeerrrllaaaannndd" flag waver, is the po-faced bore who starts dry-wretching at the sight of a st georges flag because deep within them it disgusts them. there's a balance between the two positions imo that is about right.

what about people who aren't 'po-faced bores' who find flags sickening?

 

[MillwallShoes]

what about people who aren't 'po-faced bores' who find flags sickening?

what do you find sickening about it, you po faced bore?

 

[MillwallShoes]

it's a flag, get over yourself.

 

[editor]

I was talking about this with some English friends recently and we more or less agreed that although the Union Jack has been pretty much reclaimed (with the Olympics helping the cause), the St George flag can still send off hugely whiffy signals.

 

[Pickman's model]

what do you find sickening about it, you po faced bore?

where did i say i found anything sickening about it? it's back to remedial reading for you.

 

[editor]

what about people who aren't 'po-faced bores' who find flags sickening?

A flag makes people sick? That's a bit weird. Some are very pretty things.

 

[MillwallShoes]

it's whatever people choose to look into it.

some people hate all that is English. they see it as all a result of evil overseas oppression and empire and unfair capitalism and that we should all hang our heads in shame.

they end up despising the institutions, businesses, government and every thing else that makes up this country. i've met dozens of the type before.

and they are the type who hate the english flag. and yes they are bores.

 

[MillwallShoes]

waved in a nationalistic, "we're better than everyone else" manner, yes, agreed cuntish.

i can still look at it and feel pride.

 

[Pickman's model]

A flag makes people sick? That's a bit weird. Some are very pretty things.

some aren't

 

[MillwallShoes]

some aren't

yes them flags are shit but can't we get beyond associating our own country's flag with Facism?

 

[Pickman's model]

yes them flags are shit but can't we get beyond associating our own country's flag with Facism?

i didn't equate it with fascism.

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