Knives out! The reshuffle thread

[Quartz]

So far Ken Clarke and David Jones are out.

Clarke's retiring so it makes sense for him to go before the election. I don't know about Jones - I presume he's made a hash of things.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Ken Clarke's retirement is 65 million years too late, the tobacco peddling old cunt.

 

[Roadkill]

At this stage I'm assuming that the rumours over the weekend that Ian Drunken Smith and Eric fat-cunt Pickles might be moved or sidelined were probably wishful thinking...

 

[Awesome Wells]

 

[Awesome Wells]

At this stage I'm assuming that the rumours over the weekend that Ian Drunken Smith and Eric fat-cunt Pickles might be moved or sidelined were probably wishful thinking...

If IDS is ever going to go it would be in a post election reshuffle. I don't really get why Cameron would move him now.

 

[DotCommunist]

yeah looks like the IDS thing was bullshit, fuck you beeb for getting my hopes up

 

[Treacle Toes]

If IDS is ever going to go it would be in a post election reshuffle. I don't really get why Cameron would move him now.

I doubt he will be moved now, and I dare not get my hopes up. Moving him now would show that Camerface has no confidence in him, basically admitting he has royally cocked things up, which he has and then some.

 

[Quartz]

At this stage I'm assuming that the rumours over the weekend that Ian Drunken Smith and Eric fat-cunt Pickles might be moved or sidelined were probably wishful thinking...

Presumably they'd have to roll Pickles away?

 

[Roadkill]

Presumably they'd have to roll Pickles away?

Not necessarily. He gets around fine by himself, in much the same manner as a great fat slug does.

 

[kebabking]

...I don't really get why Cameron would move him now.

i disagree - he's not exactly been a stellar performer, his stuff is late, over budget, under performing, and his media/political skills are so bad that he doesn't even appeal to the 'send 'em to the workhouse' brigade within the electorate.

getting rid allows the government to blame him for failings/bad policy, with the new face not enough time to make too many enemies before the election. he's no threat to Cameron, no one is going to be upset that he's gone, and he makes room for someone deemed more politically attractive and more competant. if that person happens to be a) a woman, b) quite pretty, and c) not Oxford, then all the better for Dave...

 

[Awesome Wells]

i disagree - he's not exactly been a stellar performer, his stuff is late, over budget, under performing, and his media/political skills are so bad that he doesn't even appeal to the 'send 'em to the workhouse' brigade within the electorate.

getting rid allows the government to blame him for failings/bad policy, with the new face not enough time to make too many enemies before the election. he's no threat to Cameron, no one is going to be upset that he's gone, and he makes room for someone deemed more politically attractive and more competant. if that person happens to be a) a woman, b) quite pretty, and c) not Oxford, then all the better for Dave...

Yeah but they love IDS. he's their fucking hero, rebuking scroungers and telling cripples to get off their arses. They love all that. If they didn't have the balls to chuck him out before, it won't happen now.

 

[kebabking]

no, they don't love IDS - they love the rhetoric, but they also require it to be put in place. IDS, despite 4 years preparation and a very permissive political environment, has not only not achieved what was set out to achieve, but he's seen as a bungler. every programme he touches turns to shit - and at gret cost and embarrassment.

the fundamental thing about tories that distinguish them from other political groupings is that above all things they demand competance. once you're no longer seen as a winner, then regardless of political purity you're dead meat.

 

[Awesome Wells]

no, they don't love IDS - they love the rhetoric, but they also require it to be put in place. IDS, despite 4 years preparation and a very permissive political environment, has not only not achieved what was set out to achieve, but he's seen as a bungler. every programme he touches turns to shit - and at gret cost and embarrassment.

the fundamental thing about tories that distinguish them from other political groupings is that above all things they demand competance. once you're no longer seen as a winner, then regardless of political purity you're dead meat.

Well i don't know how long reshuffles take, but so far so bad.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

from a well informed commentator on tweeter

 

[Bernie Gunther]

<snip> the fundamental thing about tories that distinguish them from other political groupings is that above all things they demand competance. once you're no longer seen as a winner, then regardless of political purity you're dead meat.

That seems at variance with the available evidence.

 

[DotCommunist]

it's not competence its ability to deliver votes and keep the party in power. Thatch wasn't knifed because she fucked up, but because her fuck up affected their electability

 

[8115]

They won't get rid of IDS because it was a nightmare one stupid tory cunt getting to grips with benefits, imagine how much of a nightmare it'll be for the second stupid tory cunt. And they'd never give it to a liberal democrat.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Perhaps it's like a concert and the big name will be revealed last.


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[Dogsauce]

I think IDS would make trouble for Cameron from the right of the party if pushed aside - keep your enemies close...

 

[Roadkill]

Eric Pickles is for the chop, and the corrupt Liam Fox may be on his way back, if the Torygraph is to be believed.

 

[Pickman's model]

from a well informed commentator on tweeter

and goods lifts which can take him no doubt

 

[happie chappie]

getting rid allows the government to blame him for failings/bad policy, with the new face not enough time to make too many enemies before the election. he's no threat to Cameron, no one is going to be upset that he's gone, and he makes room for someone deemed more politically attractive and more competant. if that person happens to be a) a woman, b) quite pretty, and c) not Oxford, then all the better for Dave...

Surely not . . .

 

[Pickman's model]

I think IDS would make trouble for Cameron from the right of the party if pushed aside - keep your enemies close...

keep your failed leaders further away - surely i can't be the only one who remembers him being a particularly shit tory leader?



esp 1:08>

 

[DotCommunist]

The quiet man.

 

[Roadkill]

The quiet man.

is back, and he's turning up the volume!

 

[Awesome Wells]

Eric Pickles is for the chop, and the corrupt Liam Fox may be on his way back, if the Torygraph is to be believed.

Have they confirmed E-Pic? Last i heard he couldn't 'confirm or deny' - which of course is pretty dmaning

 

[Hocus Eye.]

keep your failed leaders further away - surely i can't be the only one who remembers him being a particularly shit tory leader?



esp 1:08>

Ouch, that was most cringeworthy. What an old fraud he his.

 

[ddraig]

Nooooooooooo not Crabb! proper odious!

 

[Awesome Wells]

It all seems to be relatively minor roles. Not major department heads (bald ones especially).

 

[Roadkill]

David Willetts - good fucking riddance. Scum.