Griffin and BNP strategy

[elbows]

Lost the Nuneaton one (edit previous votes etc in later):

Labour 670
BNP 478
Con 275

Turnout was 27.6%

The previous results (May 2008) in that ward were:

Socialist Alternative 88
BNP 675
Labour 562
Con 541

The BNP & Labour candidates had changed from the last election, the Tory was the same, wonder what happened to his vote.

As mentioned a while ago, the reason for the by-election was the previous BNP councillor giving up his role, blaming work commitments.

And for comparison, the County Council election results for that ward in June 2009:

Green 147
BNP 470
Labour 505
Con 401

edit - oops I was beaten to it by butchers.

 

[JimPage]

Turnout was 27.6%

The previous results (May 2008) in that ward were:

Socialist Alternative 88
BNP 675
Labour 562
Con 541

The BNP & Labour candidates had changed from the last election, the Tory was the same, wonder what happened to his vote.

As mentioned a while ago, the reason for the by-election was the previous BNP councillor giving up his role, blaming work commitments.

And for comparison, the County Council election results for that ward in June 2009:

Green 147
BNP 470
Labour 505
Con 401

edit - oops I was beaten to it by butchers.

A loss is a loss, so that is something to be grateful for, but the BNP % vote was only marginally down in Nuneaton 36.1% to 33.6% since 2008.

One factor here was the SP not standing this time and their vote going to Labour. A neccessary step on the SPs part of course but shows that the continuing price to be paid for keeping out the BNP will be the sacrifice of the left`s electoral ambitions in a number of areas.

Epping Forest not so clear as BNP % vote marginally up from 2008 (30.2% to 30.4%) and as in Nuneaton, heavy tactical voting for best placed candidate to beat the BNP

Much Gibbbering nonsense from the idiots at Lancaster Unity and Searchlight over this today. When are these sadcases going to give up and go away?

 

[JimPage]

Turnout was 27.6%
The BNP & Labour candidates had changed from the last election, the Tory was the same, wonder what happened to his vote.

Clear tactical voting by tories to keep BNP out.

 

[elbows]

Some background on the Nuneaton BNP candidate who lost. I think he is the local BNP leader, he was a pub landlord who has stood in other wards before and lost out very narrowly (eg by 16 votes in another ward in 2008). At some point he has stopped being a landlord and become a fulltime BNP official (I think).

“I am very confident we will again be successful,” said Mr Deacon, a 43-year-old former town centre publican. “The people of Camp Hill supported BNP at the last borough council elections and I am sure they will do so again.

"I used to live in Camp Hill, I have lots of friends there and I can assure residents that I will give them 100 per cent commitment.”

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...-and-bedworth-borough-council-92746-25035365/

 

[elbows]

Oh and the Labour candidate who won was a former Mayor who had lost his seat elsewhere in June 2008

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...abour-in-nuneaton-by-election-92746-25370489/

 

[trevhagl]

Anyone been following the Joe Owens campaign on alleged Seachlight activists in the BNP? Particuarly has it in for Molloy and others from Liverpool and the Walker Bros from the North East.

has anyone got that book of his? Wouldn't mind a read but wouldn't give em money for it

 

[The39thStep]

has anyone got that book of his? Wouldn't mind a read but wouldn't give em money for it

Its out somewhere on the internet for free. Read with caution , you would have thought that it was the anti fash that lost the war rather than the fash

 

[Joe Reilly]

Well Joey's perspective is likely to be limited - he never ventured outside Liverpool.

 

[Fedayn]

BNP meets to vote on membership rule changes.

And the ECHR and their pals are outsmarted again...?!?!

BNP leader Nick Griffin has said ethnic minority members will be "welcomed" if they back the BNP's aims.

He said: "They'll be accepted, they'll be welcomed, providing they're there to do the things that we want to do, and providing they accept and agree with our principles."

 

[JimPage]

BNP meets to vote on membership rule changes.

And the ECHR and their pals are outsmarted again...?!?!

Even if they vote today to allow black members, it is far from the end of this story- as there is implied racism in their constution as well as the stated racism- basically their constitutional pledge to oppose immigration is in itself racist

 

[Fedayn]

as there is implied racism in their constution as well as the stated racism- basically their constitutional pledge to oppose immigration is in itself racist

Butthat's not the issue here Jim, the ECHR thought it was playing clever and hey ho their cleverness is fading. It's more eveidence that the bureaucratic attempts to 'shut down' the BNP are in any way effective in dealing with the issues that gave rise to their votes.

 

[JimPage]

Initial reports from Green Arrow blog indicate the EGM may be going Griffins way- with just 2 of 400 people present speaking against him

 

[Pickman's model]

Initial reports from Green Arrow blog indicate the EGM may be going Griffins way- with just 2 of 400 people present speaking against him

you're hardly going to ask a question of this magnitude if you don't know how people will vote before the meeting.

 

[Fedayn]

you're hardly going to ask a question of this magnitude if you don't know how people will vote before the meeting.

Exactly.

 

[Fedayn]

And unsurprisingly BNP votes to ditch whites-only membership rule

And Simon Darby makes clear that further amendments can be made should the EHRC aren't satisfied.

He said Mr Griffin had the authority to make further minor changes to the wording if the EHRC was not satisfied.

Yup, that really showed the BNP.....

 

[Clint Iguana]

And unsurprisingly BNP votes to ditch whites-only membership rule

And Simon Darby makes clear that further amendments can be made should the EHRC aren't satisfied.



Yup, that really showed the BNP.....

i bet there will be queues of blacks and asians wanting to join now

 

[butchersapron]

Easier to do this shit than deal with the political culture (and aims) that excludes people and that the ECHR are an integral part of.

 

[Fedayn]

Easier to do this shit than deal with the political culture (and aims) that excludes people and that the ECHR are an integral part of.

Absolutely

 

[Fedayn]

i bet there will be queues of blacks and asians wanting to join now

Which is irrelevant, the EHRC aren't concerned with this.

 

[audiotech]

Times newspaper journalist is ejected from BNP meeting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8515453.stm?ls

 

[butchersapron]

So what?

 

[The39thStep]

So what?

proof that the BNP is a nazi party etc etc

 

[butchersapron]

Shut this filth down.

BNP problems because of this = near to none.

 

[Fedayn]

Times newspaper journalist is ejected from BNP meeting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8515453.stm?ls

And?

 

[elbows]

Our politicians are about as tough on the causes of the BNP as they are tough on the causes of crime. Ignore the roots, urinate weakly on the shoots, then blame someone else when the ugly tree grows in spite of their 'best efforts'.

 

[audiotech]

And?

No platform for Times journalists obviously.

 

[stethoscope]

Having just seen Griffin's gloating on the news just now about "how they now can't call us a racist party", I can't see that any of this has achieved much other than just playing into their hands

 

[butchersapron]

BNP - not a racist party - the law says so.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Weyman Bennett had a soundbite on the BBC News. He actually spoke very well.

There is a piece on Barnbrook in the Times today. It's a problem that Hodge lacks the neccessary credibility to fully galvanise the anti-fascist majority.

 

[fiannanahalba]

Good to hear Weyman spoke very well. After his recent rhetoric hes clearly realised how close he was getting to being detained for 28 days and having the UAF and the Socialist Workers Party banned. This is a time for cool heads in the vanguard of the anti fascist cause. Well done Weyman.