Corbyn compares Israel to Isis...

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Jeremy Corbyn criticised for comparing Israel and 'Islamic states'


really grasping at straws now.

 

[sleaterkinney]

At least he didn't mention Hitler.

 

[magneze]

Just came here to post that.

That is absolutely desperate stuff.

In prepared remarks, Corbyn said: “Our Jewish friends are no more responsible for the actions of Israel or the Netanyahu government than our Islamic friends are responsible for Islamic State.”

Not actually controversial at all. Note that comments are turned off on the article.

 

[butchersapron]

Didn't seem very stressed or flustered there. Looked rather comfortable in fact.

And of course, saying 'islamic states' (check for yourselves, that is what he actually says) means Saudi, Iran etc

 

[8ball]

Didn't seem very stressed or flustered there. Looked rather comfortable in fact.

And of course, saying 'islamic states' (check for yourselves, that is what he actually says) means Saudi, Iran etc

Oh, you and your facts...

 

[butchersapron]

Just came here to post that.

That is absolutely desperate stuff.


Not actually controversial at all. Note that comments are turned off on the article.

It's only one line yet there are numerous errors in that transcription, pieces missing and words changed. Great stuff Guardian.

 

[J Ed]

He isn't comparing Israel to ISIS, he's comparing the relative responsibility of British Jews and Muslims to entities which commit human rights abuses in their name.

Interesting line here for the commentariat to push, do they realise that no one in the Labour Party (unless they hate him already) is going to be swayed by this obvious lying?

 

[magneze]

The video has now been removed. Hiding the evidence.

 

[8den]

He isn't comparing Israel to ISIS, he's comparing the relative responsibility of British Jews and Muslims to entities which commit human rights abuses in their name.

Interesting line here for the commentariat to push, do they realise that no one in the Labour Party (unless they hate him already) is going to be swayed by this obvious lying?

I don't dispute his analogy but he has to know it was going to be misinterpreted, and it might not have been the right press conference to do it in.

 

[SaskiaJayne]

It's on youtube. I can't see much wrong with it.

 

[J Ed]

It's on youtube. I can't see much wrong with it.

Wow that's a fantastic statement. Is it me or does he look more like a leader since the coup was launched than he did before? He's like a vampire that feeds on the hatred of Blairites.

 

[magneze]

That's why it's been taken off the Guardian website, cos it proves they're lying.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

This is another example of the Guardian going down the pan. It is great that the video is still available to contradict their interpretation of what he said. The fact that they took it off their site is more condemnation of the paper.

 

[rutabowa]

call me naive but i feel a bit like a veil has been lifted from my eyes this week. at least as soon as this came up at work I could point out the total misquotation straight away cos i'd seen the video.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Note that comments are turned off on the article.

Comment is free...where permitted.

 

[JimW]

Didn't seem very stressed or flustered there. Looked rather comfortable in fact.

And of course, saying 'islamic states' (check for yourselves, that is what he actually says) means Saudi, Iran etc

yeah, it's even got "various" before it so it's no that ambiguous

 

[rutabowa]

yeah, it's even got "various" before it so it's no that ambiguous

It's not in the slightest bit ambiguous I'd say... the new meaning is just 100% made up by the guardian.

 

[DotCommunist]

they've ceased to give a shit about the truth now. They'd call him a peadophile if they thought they could pay the libel costs

 

[Artaxerxes]

The main issue people are finding is that the report was setup to investigate Anti-Semitism in the Labour party and draw the poison from that.

Its somehow morphed into "Yeah we're not anti-semitic oh and not Islamophobic either" the Islam parts drowning out the anti-semitic stuff.

 

[J Ed]

I keep hearing strong rumours that everyone at the guardian hates dogs, anyone else hear that?

 

[JimW]

It's not in the slightest bit ambiguous I'd say... the new meaning is just 100% made up by the guardian.

No, you're right but I suppose some West Wing style staff of millions might have come up with a form of words that didn't put Islam and state anywhere near each other just in case.

 

[agricola]

I keep hearing strong rumours that everyone at the guardian hates dogs, anyone else hear that?

It's true, I have been to the area around King's Place six or seven times and I have never heard a dog bark. In fact, I once saw a springer spaniel refuse to go near there, with a look of what can only be described as utter terror in its little dog eyes.

 

[Idris2002]

they've ceased to give a shit about the truth now. They'd call him a peadophile if they thought they could pay the libel costs

That's for next week.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I keep hearing strong rumours that everyone at the guardian hates dogs, anyone else hear that?

That is not funny.

 

[ska invita]

Wow that's a fantastic statement. Is it me or does he look more like a leader since the coup was launched than he did before? He's like a vampire that feeds on the hatred of Blairites.

cant remember who posted it but its looking increasingly prescient

 

[J Ed]

That's for next week.

It's hard to imagine how else they can escalate the current hysteria. I don't think I've ever hated anything or anyone in my life as much as these 'journalists' hate Corbyn.

 

[agricola]

It's hard to imagine how else they can escalate the current hysteria. I don't think I've ever hated anything or anyone in my life as much as these 'journalists' hate Corbyn.

and dogs

 

[J Ed]

I was verbally attacked by a Momentum activist and Jeremy Corbyn supporter who used traditional antisemitic slurs to attack me for being part of a ‘media conspiracy’. It is beyond belief that someone could come to the launch of a report on antisemitism in the Labour Party and espouse such vile conspiracy theories about Jewish people, which were ironically highlighted as such in Ms [Shami] Chakrabarti’s report, while the leader of my own party stood by and did absolutely nothing. People like this have no place in our party or our movement and must be opposed. Until today I had made no public comment about Jeremy’s ability to lead our party, but the fact that he failed to intervene is final proof for me that he is unfit to lead, and that a Labour Party under his stewardship cannot be a safe space for British Jews.

From the graunid, what does this even mean? Why isn't this statement more specific? Is it because it's one of a long series of lies?

 

[J Ed]

Video of it here



I can't tell what happened from the video but she looks like she was desperately looking for an excuse to kick off, it's very staged. The comments on the tweet suggest that she was just accused of being a mole for the Torygraph which she probably is.

 

[agricola]

From the graunid, what does this even mean? Why isn't this statement more specific? Is it because it's one of a long series of lies?

there is video of part of the exchange: