Certificate in Terrorism.

[Errol's son]

http://www.terrorismstudies.com/

I need to move jobs: I work in security.

Does anyone know anything about these Terrorism certificates?

I was considering doing this course but doing the MLitt rather than the certificate. But now, my current employer is offering to pay for me to do this certificate and possibly the advanced certificate. The certificates are run by Informa and are separate to St Andrews. The admission board at St Andrews states (in an email to me) that the PGDip or MLitt are far more advanced and these certificates are somewhat Mickey Mouse in comparison.

But I was looking to leave paid employment and forking out on my own for a Masters in a security/terrorism type degree. Obviously this is a huge expense.

Does anyone have any knowledge of these certificates in Terrorism? One of the main reasons IMO to do a Masters degree is to meet new people interested in your area... Do you meet other professionals on this Terrorism course or is it a simple online regurgitation test?

I don't want to ask my employer to fork out for it and then leave as it is a shitty course. If I enroll on it I would like to stay with my current employer a little while longer, complete this course, pass some knowledge down and see if things improve - assuming they don't this will allow me time to prepare to get on the best post graduate course I can get on rather than maybe leaving rashly and jumping in too quickly onto a mediocre security masters type course.

 

[yield]

http://www.terrorismstudies.com/

I need to move jobs: I work in security.

Does anyone know anything about these Terrorism certificates?

For real like? Really really?

 

[Buckaroo]

For real like? Really really?

And he used to be an Investment Banker too! Nice CV.

 

[yield]

And he used to be an Investment Banker too! Nice CV.

An anthropological study on the crossover between terrorists and investment bankers Idris2002

 

[Errol's son]

I was only a banker for a short while and I worked predominantly on deals in business services, particularly for security companies like Mitie, ICTS, G4S, Securitas etc. It is not that unusual for people to move into industry after having worked as an adviser to that industry...

 

[ViolentPanda]

Although St. Andrew's is a reputable uni, I've not heard of the company doing this online cert (I have postgrad qualifications in criminology and psychology, so I'm aware of and fairly up-to-date w/r/t general terrorism studies). That doesn't mean it's no good, but if I were you, I'd be checking criminology and psychology bulletin boards for opinions on the cert.
Frankly, I'd have thought an MSc or MA would have much better traction, but given your overseas situation, St. Andrew's programmes are probably the most convenient and accessible for you.

 

[Cid]

I was only a banker for a short while and I worked predominantly on deals in business services, particularly for security companies like Mitie, ICTS, G4S, Securitas etc. It is not that unusual for people to move into industry after having worked as an adviser to that industry...

What a lovely group of companies...

 

[Errol's son]

Although St. Andrew's is a reputable uni, I've not heard of the company doing this online cert (I have postgrad qualifications in criminology and psychology, so I'm aware of and fairly up-to-date w/r/t general terrorism studies). That doesn't mean it's no good, but if I were you, I'd be checking criminology and psychology bulletin boards for opinions on the cert.
Frankly, I'd have thought an MSc or MA would have much better traction, but given your overseas situation, St. Andrew's programmes are probably the most convenient and accessible for you.

My employer now wants to pay for me to do the Certificate, then the Advanced Certificate, then the PGDip then the MLitt. One can't complain really although
I will be doing my Employer's Mlitt concurrently with my own MSc in Security. Hard work but( if someone else is paying....!)

 

[snadge]

Still banking those wages in dodgy countries?

 

[snadge]

BTW if you have to ask about these things, you are thick as fuck.

 

[Errol's son]

quote="snadge, post: 12357629, member: 4109"]Still banking those wages in dodgy countries?[/quote]

Fuck you... I send about 90% of my wages back to UK. You're just jealous you miserable scumbag.

 

[snadge]

Why on earth would I be jealous of a thick cunt?

 

[Errol's son]

Why on earth are you interrupting a thread about terrorism studies? You just have nothing better to do... Go and fuck off...

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I wonder how many of the people doing Terrorism studies are terrorists or potential terrorists. If I was going to be a terrorist I would want to be up to speed with the latest knowledge and theories.

 

[snadge]

Explain what terrorism studies entails and I may fuck off, how's that? Does it make you better at blowing up things or catching those that do?

 

[snadge]

I wonder how many of the people doing Terrorism studies are terrorists or potential terrorists. If I was going to be a terrorist I would want to be up to speed with the latest knowledge and theories.

It's a fucking non job, just what the thick cunt Errol's into, no knowledge but brags on the boards, look at me sort of shite.

 

[Errol's son]

I wonder how many of the people doing Terrorism studies are terrorists or potential terrorists. If I was going to be a terrorist I would want to be up to speed with the latest knowledge and theories.

I really think you should read the course literature.

 

[Errol's son]

It's a fucking non job, just what the thick cunt Errol's into, no knowledge but brags on the boards, look at me sort of shite.

So you approve of (some) airlines ignoring threat levels? I think airlines should study terror - and seriously.

 

[snadge]

Advanced Certificate in Terrorism Studies (eight modules of study including compulsory module): £3550 or US$5680

Nice, better cash than growing cannabis, might fucking start a course of my own, fucking good one Errol's, what a scam.

 

[snadge]

So you approve of (some) airlines ignoring threat levels? I think airlines should study terror - and seriously.

How the fuck would airline ignore threat levels you imbecile, you don't need to spend 3.5k sterling to read a memo.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I really think you should read the course literature.

Can you send me a link to a PDF?

 

[Errol's son]

Nice, better cash than growing cannabis, might fucking start a course of my own, fucking good one Errol's, what a scam.

You really are a plonker to put it politely.

 

[snadge]

It's also not the airlines job to intercept terrorists, there are security services for that.

 

[Errol's son]

How the fuck would airline ignore threat levels you imbecile, you don't need to spend 3.5k sterling to read a memo.

It is a private market you dummy - airlines perceive threats differently. Not all airlines take threats as seriously as, for say, US carriers... nor should they necessarily, but some airlines are very lackadasical about this...

 

[Errol's son]

It's also not the airlines job to intercept terrorists, there are security services for that.

So the airline is not responsible for providing security to you, the passenger? Possibly Michael O'Leary might try and claim this if you fly Rynnair but normally we expect to get from A to B unharmed. It is normal. In UK British Transport Police assist with security, elsewhere you are often in the hands of poorly paid private security.

 

[snadge]

It is a private market you dummy - airlines perceive threats differently. Not all airlines take threats as seriously as, for say, US carriers... nor should they necessarily, but some airlines are very lackadasical about this...

There are government employees and security services stationed in every airport in the world. Why would they need jumped up civilians second guessing their analysts?

 

[Errol's son]

There are government employees and security services stationed in every airport in the world. Why would they need jumped up civilians second guessing their analysts?

There are government employees in probably every airport. Does that mean they have been trained? No! There are international airports in this world where a loo cleaner in LHR has received more security training than a security supervisor for a leading airline in another.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I wonder how many of the people doing Terrorism studies are terrorists or potential terrorists. If I was going to be a terrorist I would want to be up to speed with the latest knowledge and theories.

If I were going to be a terrorist, I'd only bother doing terrorism studies if I wanted to avoid really obvious blunders.
Like any form of conflict studies, terrorism studies very much "fight the last war", with only a small amount of attention paid to analysing where new threats might come from. Lots of history ("know thine enemy"), some psychology (most people assume that terrorists of any stripe are psychopathic fanatics - most are neither), problem-solving and basic safeguarding (situational awareness and designing-out of factors that might help a terrorist facilitate an attack).
Terrorism studies is a subject on the "up and up", but at least part of that is because it's new in academic terms (used to be a sub-field of criminology, still is in many cases), so the wheat hasn't yet been entirely separated from the chaff in terms of course content.

 

[ViolentPanda]

How the fuck would airline ignore threat levels you imbecile, you don't need to spend 3.5k sterling to read a memo.

Two words: Commercial considerations.

 

[ViolentPanda]

There are government employees and security services stationed in every airport in the world. Why would they need jumped up civilians second guessing their analysts?

TBF, airports are not airlines. An airport's security is only as good as the least secure employee of an airline, even with armed police and military on-site, and spooks hanging out in the departure lounges.