BNP to march from Woolwich to Lewisham Sat 1st June

[Brainaddict]

Can't see a thread on this yet - delete if there is one:

The BNP are organising a march in SE London this Saturday. From the fb group

We will be meeting in Woolwich at 13.00hrs at the junction between Woolwich Newroad and Gunner Lane, opposite the Barracks.

From there we will take part in a march and motorcade which will terminate at the Lewisham Islamic Centre.

We are marching to demand that the political class take action and kick Muslim 'Hate Preachers Out' of Britain NOW!

Anti-fascist organisers are gearing up to oppose it - http://londonantifascists.wordpress.com/

Important to turn out for this if you can.

Edit for those who don't want to trawl through the thread - the best info available for the counterdemos (one in Woolwich, one in Lewisham) is currently this site http://transpont.blogspot.co.uk/

 

[CharlieChaplin]

That should work out nice and smooth for them without any trouble.

 

[Belushi]

Fascists always get a warm reception in Lewisham.

 

[Brainaddict]

Numbers weren't that good at the anti-EDL demo at Downing Street so please try and publicise this.

 

[CharlieChaplin]

You could get lots of local people to go out.

 

[el-ahrairah]

let's hope the sun is shining.

 

[Bakunin]

Fascists always get a warm reception in Lewisham.

They certainly did last time.

 

[treelover]

a long long time ago, its seem the far left is in nostalgia mode as it declines

having said that I'm sure griffin is also aware of the resonance and people should attend, I just don't think you can live off 'past glories'

 

[DrRingDing]

I can find many many things I'd prefer to do on Saturday but it's important that everyone that can make it, does.

 

[cesare]

Is the route published yet? Heh, either up through Charlton village over Blackheath and then down into Lewisham; or through Woolwich, lower Charlton, Greenwich then up to Lewisham. This "motorcade" will be interesting traffic wise.

 

[cantsin]

a long long time ago, its seem the far left is in nostalgia mode as it declines

having said that I'm sure griffin is also aware of the resonance and people should attend, I just don't think you can live off 'past glories'

it's a theory I spose

 

[Brainaddict]

I don't think there's any room for complacency. Political organisation is not what it was in the 70s. Whatever happens on Saturday, it will be nothing like 1977.

 

[Virtual Blue]

how daft can you get? lewisham ffs!

anyway, who the fuck is bankrolling the BNP? aren't they like mega skint?

 

[Brainaddict]

Why's it daft? They probably think they can get a 'victory' where they were once defeated. They might be right. People have commented that there have been a lot of new faces at EDL marches so the BNP can probably gather bigger numbers too right now. I'm not aware of much black political organisation in Lewisham at the moment and even if there were some, I don't know if many of those groups would come out for what is explicitly an anti-muslim march. So they are going to march into an area where muslims are quite a small minority at a time when anti-fascist organising is at a low ebb and fascist groups can gather increased numbers. Who is going to oppose them?

 

[Brainaddict]

Facebook invite here: the meeting point here is at the Islamic Centre which is the end point of the BNP march. https://www.facebook.com/events/188514991305187/

 

[Brainaddict]

Meeting tonight called by the Islamic Centre
This taken from Goldsmiths Disorganised Left fb page:

Message from Lewisham Islamic centre:

Dear Friends,

We are writing to you in these most difficult and challenging times as regards BNP's
planned march from Woolwich to Lewisham Islamic Centre on Saturday, 1 June 2013.
As you will be aware, the aim and purpose of the march to conclude in our Borough
and outside our Centre is to create discord, division and disunity amongst the
people of the of this great Borough. This is not just an attack on Islam, it is an
attack on community cohesion, diversity and everything we all stand for. We are one
Borough and we are the majority and we must not allow these fringe expressions of
hatred incited by groups such as the BNP and EDL start to flourish on our doorstep.

This Borough has an established history in standing up to the far right as was the
case in 1977 when fascism was stopped right here in Lewisham. In carrying on this
mantle, and as friends, politicians and community leaders of this wonderful Borough,
we call on you all to stand as one with us and we would like to invite you all to an
emergency meeting [TONIGHT, 29 MAY] at 7pm at the Lewisham Islamic Centre to discuss coordinating a peaceful rally against the BNP on the day of the march.
We look forward to hearing from you to confirm your attendance and looking forward
to meeting with you.

Yours faithfully
Media Office at
Lewisham Islamic Centre

 

[Dogsauce]

They should throw the doors open and put the kettle on like the York lot did, get the whole community round. Take the wind out of their sails.

 

[ddraig]

bet the police wouldn't let em

 

[Dogsauce]

Thing is, the BNP *have* to do something like this to try and appear like they're still relevant, having had their politics stolen by UKIP and clothes stolen by the EDL. If they can't rise to the occasion and it's a pathetic squib of an affair it'll be really humiliating for them and really quite funny for everyone else.

 

[Streathamite]

anti-fascist organising is at a low ebb and fascist groups can gather increased numbers. Who is going to oppose them?

actually, the anti-fascist camp is just about the healthiest part of the 'left'; it's the one thing which unites all those squabbling groupings (trot, anarchist, community groups etc) who otherwise wouldn't give each other the time of day

 

[Mr Smin]

Muslims have shouting matches with Christians in Lewisham. BNP might not get a chant in edgeways.

(OK, I _once_ saw a shouting match between the people on a Muslim stall and their Christian-leafleting rivals on Lewisham High Street)

 

[Dogsauce]

The EDL had appeared to be in terminal decline, such that it barely seemed worth turning up to oppose the odd hundred or so stood in a police cage on the fringes of towns, barking at nothing. If they're back in the game a bit more a lot more antis are going to wake up and stand against them again.

 

[ddraig]

at a guess it will be a coupe of hundred at most, surrounded by plod to protect them from the good people of Lewisham and other areas of Sarf London they pass through
I hope people come out on their doorsteps to give them grief as they pass and the Islamic centre is surrounded 5-10 deep with people from all parts of the community in solidarity not letting them pass

that or there's 20-50 of them who get blisters by blackheath and are bused back out for their sake and everyone else

 

[Pickman's model]

at a guess it will be a coupe of hundred at most, surrounded by plod to protect them from the good people of Lewisham and other areas of Sarf London they pass through
I hope people come out on their doorsteps to give them grief as they pass and the Islamic centre is surrounded 5-10 deep with people from all parts of the community in solidarity not letting them pass

that or there's 20-50 of them who get blisters by blackheath and are abused back out for their sake and everyone else

corrected for you

 

[Pickman's model]

actually, the anti-fascist camp is just about the healthiest part of the 'left'; it's the one thing which unites all those squabbling groupings (trot, anarchist, community groups etc) who otherwise wouldn't give each other the time of day

it's all that running about which keeps them healthy

 

[DrRingDing]

If they're back in the game a bit more a lot more antis are going to wake up and stand against them again.

You'd hope so.

 

[Streathamite]

Is the route published yet? Heh, either up through Charlton village over Blackheath and then down into Lewisham; or through Woolwich, lower Charlton, Greenwich then up to Lewisham. This "motorcade" will be interesting traffic wise.

yep, those are the only two routes, both busy main routes. The OB will love having to stop the traffic for that one

 

[Streathamite]

it's all that running about which keeps them healthy

 

[ddraig]

it'd have to be the lower route surely? more pubs

 

[cesare]

it'd have to be the lower route surely? more pubs

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